Wynn Resorts to Get First G650 - Article

[Fly91]

thanks for the "lesson" on what charter does to an airplane. Next thing you'll be telling me the sky is blue. hopefully he'll start flying more than 3 times a year. other wise you'll be out there running the engines & apu up to avoid inspections. good luck with the asian company.

When you're beyond a billionaire you can let planes sit until they lease out or sell......its better than having ANOTHER dirt charter company rag it out, steal money from the owner, or worse.......crash it.

The man's eyes have been opened......he's NOT going to charter the G650, or his current GIV AGAIN. I've been presenting him with amazing charter deals from reputable charter operators who will do it right...for his GIV...he turns them all down. Its lease or nothing......no more charter operators, he's aggressively looking to lease it out ONLY. And yes, it still might be flying with the current charter operator, but that will expire soon.

And the sky is actually NOT blue....thats just the color the human eye see's........just say'in.......lol

 

[landlover]

more power to him with finding a new management company, hopefully it will all work out for him. With all his billions hopefully he'll start splurging on hotels instead of having the crew sleep in the basement of his ski house in Aspen. A lease is basically a long term charter, again good luck!

When you're beyond a billionaire you can let planes sit until they lease out or sell......its better than having ANOTHER dirt charter company rag it out, steal money from the owner, or worse.......crash it.

The man's eyes have been opened......he's NOT going to charter the G650, or his current GIV AGAIN. I've been presenting him with amazing charter deals from reputable charter operators who will do it right...for his GIV...he turns them all down. Its lease or nothing......no more charter operators, he's aggressively looking to lease it out ONLY. And yes, it still might be flying with the current charter operator, but that will expire soon.

And the sky is actually NOT blue....thats just the color the human eye see's........just say'in.......lol

 

[Fly91]

more power to him with finding a new management company, hopefully it will all work out for him. With all his billions hopefully he'll start splurging on hotels instead of having the crew sleep in the basement of his ski house in Aspen. A lease is basically a long term charter, again good luck!

Yea...you should see his lease agreement terms. Its not gonna be easy to find someone to abide by the terms.

His way of looking at it......
Someone leases it: its the same exact people on the plane every time and they are responsible for any damage of the plane according to the contract. Same pilots on every trip too. So the blame game can't be passed along from crew to crew...so nobody is held responsible for anything that might get damaged.

135: It gets trashed by everyone that charters it, and customers get away with it. Unless its something totally crazy like cigarette burns in the seats or something like that. Different crews every trip too....some are good and take care of the plane like its their own....some are jackazzs and treat the plane like crap.

Lease to one customer is WAY better then chartering it out to the public......

He wants no more headaches. His plane(s) will just have to sit until they find that person....or they find that person that negotiates a happy medium and gets a contract agreed upon.

MM should have just been nice to his pilots and treated them good and picked up the hotels on his trips........but treating pilots good is not in MM blood.........

 

[landlover]

MM should have just been nice to his pilots and treated them good and picked up the hotels on his trips........but treating pilots good is not in MM blood.........

you got it backwards, PH was the one being cheap not MM. Got to get the money to pay for his G650 from somewhere. In fact MM backed me up and said go to a hotel and he'll deal with PH. Hopefully PH can get someone to lease his airplane so he doesn't have to resort to charter.

 

[gutshotdraw]

Yes, Steve is getting the first customer delivery of a 650.

Pay and QOL are decent as long as you don't mind not having regularly scheduled days off. And a boss that will fire you as soon as look at you (which is tough for him since he has RP). And a CP that is SERIOUSLY old school (if you know what I mean). And you don't mind signing a training contract that is straight-up ridiculous.

But it's 80 and clear blue on Thanksgiving Day, there's no such thing as last call, and you can buy a 3,000 sf house in a REALLY nice part of town for 300 grand so Vegas ain't all bad.

 

[Fly91]

you got it backwards, PH was the one being cheap not MM. Got to get the money to pay for his G650 from somewhere. In fact MM backed me up and said go to a hotel and he'll deal with PH. Hopefully PH can get someone to lease his airplane so he doesn't have to resort to charter.

Its gonna end up being a China lease.....even though he wants it to stay based in the USA. He'll have to let it go to a China base. Or let it sit.

 

[CWGrizwald]

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[falconpilot]

Yes, Steve is getting the first customer delivery of a 650.

Pay and QOL are decent as long as you don't mind not having regularly scheduled days off. And a boss that will fire you as soon as look at you (which is tough for him since he has RP). And a CP that is SERIOUSLY old school (if you know what I mean). And you don't mind signing a training contract that is straight-up ridiculous.

But it's 80 and clear blue on Thanksgiving Day, there's no such thing as last call, and you can buy a 3,000 sf house in a REALLY nice part of town for 300 grand so Vegas ain't all bad.

Do you mean first US customer delivery? I was under the impression the first deliveries were foreign registered.

 

[gutshotdraw]

Do you mean first US customer delivery? I was under the impression the first deliveries were foreign registered.

It's a single digit serial number. Not sure who's jet will be out of completion first.

 

[sat74]

How is a training contract legal if its required for the job?

 

[AA717driver]

How is a training contract legal if its required for the job?

Simple. Don't sign it if you don't want the job. Sign it and bail and see how you are received by other operators.

Legal, illegal, ethical, unethical--it's part 91. That's the deal.

TC