Situation at Citation Air?

[208starcheck]

It's been a couple weeks since the initial terrible news. Has the dust settled enough for real info on the company plans for the pilots?

 

[bailout]

28 gone by april 4th, 16 downgrades. 118 to go by years end with 60 downgrades.. next year is anybodys guess at this point.

 

[208starcheck]

Sorry to hear.
How many total pilots are on the seniority list right now?

 

[The Av1ator]

THE SITUATION...The Situation is that management is incompetent, not forthcoming with truthful information and trying their best to run this place out of business...Thats THE SITUATION...

 

[rigger]

THE SITUATION...The Situation is that management is incompetent, not forthcoming with truthful information and trying their best to run this place out of business...Thats THE SITUATION...

And that the pilots got gready, bought into the union is everything mentality and drove a stake into the already bad relationship between the pilots and the company!!!!!! We showed them !!!!!!!!! LOLOLOLOLOL

 

[dime line]

And that the pilots got gready, bought into the union is everything mentality and drove a stake into the already bad relationship between the pilots and the company!!!!!! We showed them !!!!!!!!! LOLOLOLOLOL

Wow..

 

[OPECJet]

And that the pilots got gready, bought into the union is everything mentality and drove a stake into the already bad relationship between the pilots and the company!!!!!! We showed them !!!!!!!!! LOLOLOLOLOL

Lay off the drugs, son.......

 

[UAL-GSO]

Another chief pilot leaving now to join JW and FC at that "upper tier" flight department. You think they know something?...

 

[AftCG182]

And that the pilots got gready, bought into the union is everything mentality and drove a stake into the already bad relationship between the pilots and the company!!!!!! We showed them !!!!!!!!! LOLOLOLOLOL

The correlation is pretty clear to those not brainwashed by the union machine...

 

[imacdog]

The correlation is pretty clear to those not brainwashed by the union machine...

So would you mind explaining how NetJets employs well over 2,000 pilots?

 

[AftCG182]

So would you mind explaining how NetJets employs well over 2,000 pilots?

This thread has nothing to do with Netjets. The union WAS a contributing factor to CA's demise.

Uncle Warren's bottomless pockets are the true reason behind Netjets' bulletproof status. To be fair, though, your Sales department has identified a price point for your contracts which keeps your Company sustainable.

Netjets pioneered the Fractional industry. You guys trailblazed; we're all grateful for your hard work.

For Pete's sake, cut back on the "everything revolves around Netjets" attitude. We all know that you guys are King of the Hill. Let us have our shot at success in the Fractional industry.

 

[BentOver]

says the guy working at Avantair commenting on a Citationaire thread:beer:


PS..if I'm not mistaken you are always one of the first to announce how great Avantair is doing when the rest have had some difficulties of late....

 

[BentOver]

Another chief pilot leaving now to join JW and FC at that "upper tier" flight department. You think they know something?...

Never good when people in management start moving

 

[imacdog]

This thread has nothing to do with Netjets. The union WAS a contributing factor to CA's demise.

Uncle Warren's bottomless pockets are the true reason behind Netjets' bulletproof status. To be fair, though, your Sales department has identified a price point for your contracts which keeps your Company sustainable.

Netjets pioneered the Fractional industry. You guys trailblazed; we're all grateful for your hard work.

For Pete's sake, cut back on the "everything revolves around Netjets" attitude. We all know that you guys are King of the Hill. Let us have our shot at success in the Fractional industry.

No, everything does not revolve around NetJets, however if that company can succeed with a unionized pilot work force, then how can one blame the formation of a union (without even a first contract) on the demise of another? The answer is simple, you're simply full of poo.

 

[AftCG182]

says the guy working at Avantair commenting on a Citationaire thread:beer:
I emptied my wallet of all my business cards to the crew that I met in VGT at the end of my last tour. Said "pass 'em out to anyone who might need 'em". After hearing the pain in their voices while describing their looming furloughs, I felt compelled to do so. Also, I submitted two ex-CA resumes during my week off over the last couple of days. It is the absolute least that I can do.

I have been preaching Fractional solidarity since my very first posts in the Fractionals thread after being hired at Avantair. Karma's a b1tch. I would hope that the same courtesy would be shown to me if Avantair went t1ts-up (or had a shift in operational strategy).

PS..if I'm not mistaken you are always one of the first to announce how great Avantair is doing when the rest have had some difficulties of late....

I couldn't be more proud of Avantair. We're barely scraping by, busting our azzes, pinching pennies, sucking it up, all in the interest of attempting to elevate our little startup to a level of greatness enjoyed by Granddaddy Netjets. There's not a bit of arrogance in ANY post that I've made here. And (I'm taking a bit of a liberty here) my attitude is shared by our pilot group as a whole. We wish success for everybody. You'd be hard pressed to find a post where I wished ill-will upon someone. Actually, you won't find one, period

I'm off to bed. Good night. Again, best of luck to ALL of us :beer:

 

[CALRepublic]

Somehow you guys managed to turn this thread into another union thing.

 

[Sparse]

Another chief pilot leaves for Phizer. In the past 8 months CA has lost the DFO, Sovereign/X chief pilot, and the now the chief pilot. The top three individuals in flight ops have left.

 

[UAL-GSO]

Another chief pilot leaves for Phizer. In the past 8 months CA has lost the DFO, Sovereign/X chief pilot, and the now the chief pilot. The top three individuals in flight ops have left.

All to Phizer. Gee, you think the good old boys are looking out for themselves...

 

[T-1GUY]

Your either on the inside, or you are on the outside...

 

[clueless]

Does JDW still work there?