XJT MEC declares war on ASA pilots.

[jetracer5]

Dear Legacy ExpressJet Pilots:

I have rode in the van with a lot of you and if you want the TRUTH about PBS talk to any ASA pilot and they will give you the real details. I like it and would never return to line bidding unless I had to. One question I keep hearing is you loose your 3 weeks vacation......NOT TRUE! We used to bid vacation the same way you guys did, if it inter fears with your vacation it gets dropped etc......same goes with PBS. One week turns into 19 days with PBS. Like I said dont read union emails or internet forums just ask any of our 1,700 pilots. Some may hate it but most like it.

 

[Clutch]

Dear Legacy ExpressJet Pilots:

I have rode in the van with a lot of you and if you want the TRUTH about PBS talk to any ASA pilot and they will give you the real details. I like it and would never return to line bidding unless I had to. One question I keep hearing is you loose your 3 weeks vacation......NOT TRUE! We used to bid vacation the same way you guys did, if it inter fears with your vacation it gets dropped etc......same goes with PBS. One week turns into 19 days with PBS. Like I said dont read union emails or internet forums just ask any of our 1,700 pilots. Some may hate it but most like it.

He may type like a bona fide partial-retard, and by our hiring criteria he very well may be, but he's right... The PBS is the greatest improvement we've seen at this crappy, bottom-feeding "airline" in over 5 years.

And another thing, you exjet guys, STFU in the van.. I don't want to hear your holocaustesque, "we are a victim" and "your crappy contract sucks compared to our crappy contract" whining. It's pathetic. I'd rather you just ask me about my crappy 4-day and you tell me about yours. Otherwise, let me do my crossword. Unless you're that "nevets"/Steven doosh. Please introduce yourself. I'd love to punch you in the taint.

 

[BoilerUP]

Of course, union officers NEVER have and NEVER would use a proxy (lacky?) to spread misinformation and/or dissent among a pilot group...

 

[Max Q]

This thread smells like sh(beep)t.

 

[ASACRJFlyer]

The XJT MEC has realized that they will have to give up there current line bidding system. The XJT MEC has now agreed to go with a PBS system that does not honor seniority. It is a "globalization" system that is 40% seniority and 60% not based on seniority....The XJT MEC is trying to ram this down the throats of the ASA pilots and it is a worse system than we currently use. Contact your reps. now...before it to late.

Dear fellow ERJ Xjetters,

Please ignore Joe. Every pilot group has their management suck-up, "I-want-bigger-planes-here-at-my-crappy-regional-because-I'm-too-much-of-a-******************************-to-get-hired-by-mainline", sky is falling, let's take a subpar contract to stay competitive, loser.

In fact, Joe and a few like him were behind an attempt a few years back to replace our MEC with some of his management suck-up buddies so they could ram a crap contract down our pilot group's throat. While our current contract is far from perfect, its a ton better than what it would have been if Joe and friends had gotten their way.

Joe doesn't represent the vast majority of us who want this place to be a good place to be until we can move on to better airlines. In fact, a growing number of us are becoming tired of our current MEC, who here lately seem to be happy to take management's side more often than the pilot's while they collect their alpa pay.

The more I hear about what the ERJ MEC wants, the more I'm behind them and not ours. So long as the list integration is done fairly, I'd like to see the ERJ MEC take the lead on negotiations, their current contract seems to have much better work rules and tighter language than the current CRJ contract.

 

[79%N1]

Your views on JoeM are irrelevant. The real question is....is he right? I dont think he just takes the time to make this stuff up. He heard something, and is repeating it for us to discuss. End of story.

 

[twott driver]

Wasn't his girlfriend running for MEC chairthing?

 

[FightingIrish]

While some of Joe's info isn't quite correct, the majority of it is pretty accurate. As someone who is on the "inside", I can tell you it seems to be getting uglier between the 2 MECs. I can't understand why they now don't want either their current system or the ASA PBS. The system they want is inferior to both current systems.

 

[Stifler's Mom]

While some of Joe's info isn't quite correct, the majority of it is pretty accurate. As someone who is on the "inside", I can tell you it seems to be getting uglier between the 2 MECs. I can't understand why they now don't want either their current system or the ASA PBS. The system they want is inferior to both current systems.

Tell us about this system, please.

 

[punkpilot48]

Dear Legacy ExpressJet Pilots:

I have rode in the van with a lot of you and if you want the TRUTH about PBS talk to any ASA pilot and they will give you the real details. I like it and would never return to line bidding unless I had to. One question I keep hearing is you loose your 3 weeks vacation......NOT TRUE! We used to bid vacation the same way you guys did, if it inter fears with your vacation it gets dropped etc......same goes with PBS. One week turns into 19 days with PBS. Like I said dont read union emails or internet forums just ask any of our 1,700 pilots. Some may hate it but most like it.

With your trip dropping can't that take you below mmg pay? Correct me if I'm wrong but thats my understanding and thats what I'm most concerned about. Falling below mmg pay turns vacation into a regular day off and that's not acceptable for me.

 

[crazy8]

While some of Joe's info isn't quite correct, the majority of it is pretty accurate. As someone who is on the "inside", I can tell you it seems to be getting uglier between the 2 MECs. I can't understand why they now don't want either their current system or the ASA PBS. The system they want is inferior to both current systems.

So how is the new system inferior? There has been a ton of homework done by the XJT scheduling committee, and I seriously doubt they would throw something out there that is subpar.

 

[Stifler's Mom]

With your trip dropping can't that take you below mmg pay? Correct me if I'm wrong but thats my understanding and thats what I'm most concerned about. Falling below mmg pay turns vacation into a regular day off and that's not acceptable for me.

No, if I am following along with you. I have been given 60-65 hours during vacation months, and received 75-hours (monthly guarantee) of pay.

 

[Flybywire44]

A globalized bidding system is horrible and should be avoided. Continental uses a global bidding system.

A Seniority PBS system is not the same as a Globalized PBS System.

 

[punkpilot48]

No, if I am following along with you. I have been given 60-65 hours during vacation months, and received 75-hours (monthly guarantee) of pay.

Right on.

 

[mtsupilot376]

For those of that don't know what a globalized PBS bidding system is; please explain. How does it work and what is different about it versus the PBS we already have?


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