SWA Kelly - "no plans to grow this year"

[satpak77]

So much for Hawaii....

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204616504577170562897804828.html

Southwest Airlines Co. will keep capacity flat this year and focus on boosting revenue to overcome high fuel costs, as the largest U.S. domestic carrier squares up to toughening competition.



Dallas-based Southwest is dialing back expansion for a second year, focusing on a revamp of its aircraft fleet and digesting AirTran Airways after closing its deal for the Atlanta-based rival.



Chief Executive Gary Kelly said Thursday that there are no plans for Southwest to grow this year. "Our network plans, in that respect, are conservative and are geared toward boosting our revenue performance," Mr. Kelly said during a conference call with analysts to discuss the company's fourth-quarter earnings.



Southwest opened the U.S. airline reporting season with results that beat analysts' expectations, though the earnings fell when stripped of special items.



The airline said booking levels indicated the first quarter will be strong, with average passenger revenue likely to rise 7% to 8%.
"The traffic demand looks really good," said Mr. Kelly, who described corporate bookings as "stable."



Southwest will add only Atlanta to its network this year, with 15 daily flights starting from the Delta Air Lines Inc. stronghold next month. Its AirTran unit will add flights to Mexico City and Cabo San Lucas, while cutting several unprofitable cities including Miami, Knoxville, Tenn., and Bloomington, Ill.



"We'll have big schedule changes occurring within the AirTran unit throughout the year," Mr. Kelly said.



The airline expects to receive its single-operating certificate from the Federal Aviation Administration in March, allowing it to integrate AirTran's fleet. When Southwest and AirTran combine their networks this year, they will reach 103 cities.



Southwest said its profit rose 16% to $152 million in the fourth quarter from $131 million a year earlier. Per-share earnings rose to 20 cents from 18 cents. Excluding special items such as fuel-hedge gains, the per-share profit fell to nine cents from 15 cents, beating Wall Street estimates by a penny.



In 2011, the airline earned $330 million excluding special items, its 39th consecutive profitable year.



Last month, Southwest placed a firm order for 150 Boeing Co. 737 Max airplanes, as well as 58 more 737-700s and 737-800s for $19 billion at list prices—the largest order in Boeing history. Southwest will add 33 737-800s this year, while retiring 40 aircraft, dropping its fleet size to 691 planes from 698. The airline said this week it will refurbish the interior of its fleet, fitting in six extra seats on each plane. Southwest expects the fleet changes to save $70 million in 2012.



Capacity is expected to rise 1% in the first quarter of this year, largely due to an extra day because 2012 is a leap year. Southwest said its capacity will hold flat this year compared with 2011 pro forma results.
Southwest's unit cost, the amount spent to fly a passenger a mile, edged up 0.5% over pro forma results for a year earlier—better than previous guidance of a 2% increase. The airline said it expects unit costs to increase again in the first quarter of 2012.



Average fares in the fourth quarter were $140.18, an increase of about 10% compared with a year earlier, including AirTran pro forma results.
When questioned about industry speculation of competitors targeting a merger or acquisition of American Airlines' parent AMR Corp., which filed for bankruptcy-court protection in November, Mr. Kelly said Southwest is preoccupied with closing the AirTran merger, and added that AMR's network strategy didn't fit with Southwest's.



But he said, "We will pay close attention to any things that do become available, whether it's a simple route or whether it's other assets, and we'll be on our toes to move on those if there are some good opportunities."



Shares in Southwest rose 3.1%, or 28 cents, to $9.30 at 4 p.m. Thursday in composite trading on the New York Stock Exchange. The stock price climbed to its highest level in almost six months during the session.

 

[Captain Fulough]

Gloomy Gary always says we're not growing until we're growing. Hawaii won't happen until 2nd quarter 2013 at the earliest.

 

[On Your Six]

What a surprise!

I bet the Airtran guys could have done it. Maybe next year guys, no biggie. That now gives you an extra year to watch the new Hawaii 5-0 on CBS. That girl on there is HOT.


Godspeed!


The OYSter

 

[redflyer65]

There is absolutely nothing new here. Many times Gary has stated the growth will be at 0%.

At least its not a negative number like -3%.

 

[Captain Fulough]

Time to let it go.

We start service in April.

 

[fam62c]

Unless the pay to fly to Hawaii is higher than the pay to fly anywhere else who cares if SW ever goes there. I mean really, does it matter?

 

[n757st]

Serious question... since you guys are getting -800s, are you showing still positive asm growth or will retirements outpace deliverys?

 

[scoreboardII]

Really?



And...



You need more? I can find more....

Sure, I said that, see any mention of 2012? NOPE.

 

[Captain Fulough]

Probably not a true statement since a lot of the pilots came from Mesa, Pinnacle, Republic, Big Sky, Comair, Mesaba, TSA, Skyway, Horizon, ASA, ACA, Airtran, etc.....................................

Half my class was military and they fly everywhere. We had a 25 year USAirways guy, 2 ATA pilots, a Kalitta and a World pilot who all flew international at one time. We also had a corporate guy who may have. My point was it's not that unique.

 

[humveedriver]

The first time or two you go to a destination with special procedures it's interesting. Then old hat after that. What's so hard about Hawaii? I think mx and SOC have more to do to get ready for ETOPS than the pilots. We have to... Keep up with fuel burn and nearest alternate (using ETP not distance). Now the supplemental flying that our friends at World, Kallita and Evergreen to name a few perform sounds way more challenging with more responsibility on the crew. Think on your feet type stuff.

 

[ASADFW7]

This thread was thinned out back on topic.

 

[On Your Six]

Unless the pay to fly to Hawaii is higher than the pay to fly anywhere else who cares if SW ever goes there. I mean really, does it matter?

I really look forward to going back to Hawaii. I always enjoyed my Hawaii layovers back at my corporate gig. Some people like seeing tropical places.


Godspeed!


The OYSter

 

[Critter717]

Are new hires and recurrent classes getting signed off on waters training? Does it look like things are on track from the Southwest side as originally planned?

The only thing you need to know for what are doing on the Airtran Intl. side is don't speak in Spanish on the radio unless you speak Spanish.

 

[dicko]

The only thing you need to know for what are doing on the Airtran Intl. side is don't speak in Spanish on the radio unless you speak Spanish.

So, contacting Havana Center and saying " Buenos Diazzz, Fajita nacho libre taco 410" isn't cool ?

 

[FlyByNight1]

Yup... no growth... all those AirTran planes and cities and extra gates we'll have this year will be absolutely no growth for SWA. Nothing to see here... Let the Droids pass...

 

[Fubijaakr]

I think mx and SOC have more to do to get ready for ETOPS than the pilots..

Just to reiterate, this is factually correct. And if you need to cut costs, perhaps its best to put a project like Hawaii on the back burner for now.

BTW, this post CANNOT be misconstrued as anti-SWA so it doesn't need to be deleted.

 

[outerlimits]

Just to reiterate, this is factually correct. And if you need to cut costs, perhaps its best to put a project like Hawaii on the back burner for now.

BTW, this post CANNOT be misconstrued as anti-SWA so it doesn't need to be deleted.

Sounds like someones airline is getting scared ...



Now what to do if SWA goes to Anchorage also.

 

[Scoot 11]

Sounds like someones airline is getting scared ...



Now what to do if SWA goes to Anchorage also.

Your flame bait is quite dull.
You might want to extract some of that energy and study for recurrent, or maybe getting a date.

Just an observation.

 

[madjack]

As per Bob Jordan, 13 AAI 737's are going to be converted this year, as per R. Mccrady, 168 AAI pilots are transitioning this year, as Per Mr K and SWAPA, 33 -800 deliveries this year and 40 -300 retirements, as per Mr K, adding a row (six seats) to all -700's...also keeping 22 AAI cites...adding service to MEX and ATL...so...are we growing??

 

[humveedriver]

I guess it depends if you look at the equation as the sum of two parts or one side growing while the other side shrinks. There is some pilot growth as SWA is conducting new hire classes. Our 737's are gonna take some effort to convert. They will be out of pocket for I believe 2 months once the process starts. We have 54 737s they say 32 will be international birds for a while? I'm not even sure I know what that means. Other than they will be the last to get converted. Or will they be converted at all? If those are all leased planes versus the ones we bought. Maybe it would be chepaer to break those leases vice converting them, and time that with the new aircraft orders. Dunno.