Things seem quite at ASA what's up?

[SPDBRD747400]

Ok been a little while and we need another ASA thread. Now there's been plenty of talk of the 8 (700's) going away, and maybe the 6 (200's). When do we vote (and what are the choices) on the "new" name? Also does anyone think we could see a new contract to fly for USAirways on the East coast since Skywest just got new contract for them outta PHX? Oh and when is Delta gonna switch out those nasty Cheddar Sun Chips back to the Salsa ones??? Ok talk away we need more ASA threads!

 

[CheeseHead13]

Quite what?

 

[spudskier]

Quite QUITE! Wish ASA would quit being quite! Glad we're all so edumacated!

 

[CRJ puppy]

Quite!

And, God save the Queen!

And other assorted balderdash!!

 

[Sherpa]

We Todd did, I am sofa king we todd did.

 

[McNugent]

We Todd did, I am sofa king we todd did.

Brilliant!

 

[SPDBRD747400]

Oh geez yeah I mean Quiet, I need spell check!

 

[princeton]

Oh geez yeah I mean Quiet, I need spell check!

Spell check wont help you with that.

 

[SPDBRD747400]

Spell check wont help you with that.

Right again I'm just having a bad day!!! haha

 

[makersmarc]

Who among us has not in his haste typed the wrong word into the topic line, only to be severely chastened by his fellow FIers? Hmmmm?

 

[SpaceShipEarth]

Not I!... at least not with this user name ;-)

 

[spudskier]

So back on topic... ASA is losing 8 CRJ700s, possibly 6 CRJ200s, waiting for the hammer to fall on downgrades, upgrades have probably shot up to 8 years or so... (upgrades are at least 6 years right now) Getting deeper and deeper into the dark pit that is contract negotiations and the two MECs can't even get along. We've just plateaued on our slide to the bottom, there are more threads to come as we hit the next down-slope which will be soon I'm sure. Enjoy the "quite", kind of like when a baby naps.

 

[Flyguy1226]

Ok been a little while and we need another ASA thread. Now there's been plenty of talk of the 8 (700's) going away, and maybe the 6 (200's). When do we vote (and what are the choices) on the "new" name? Also does anyone think we could see a new contract to fly for USAirways on the East coast since Skywest just got new contract for them outta PHX? Oh and when is Delta gonna switch out those nasty Cheddar Sun Chips back to the Salsa ones??? Ok talk away we need more ASA threads!

- We will actually be back to the original number of CRJ7s once those 8 leave
for Blowjet, since we aquired 8 ex-Horizon birds. Just need to find homes or extend contracts on those 50 seaters.

- Not expecting any furloughs or downgrades.

- Have heard a rumor of USAir flying for ASA out of LGA, but that's a pretty wild rumor.

- Should be voting on the new company name within the next couple of weeks.

- Check those expiration dates on those Sun Chips! Had a pax get handed some expired ones a few weeks ago.

- Aceypalooza! Thanks for all you do!

 

[Dannone]

Those 700s were parked at ASA, until Delta put out a proposal. There was no contract for them or the 50s. They were never ASA's. As a matter of fact they were here longer than they were supposed to be. The rest of our flying is under long term contract. Flying for a regional still sucks and always will but this whole doom and gloom thing is annoying. Yes regional life sucks and we will never be properly staffed because it would cost too much but that is not why ASA lost those airplanes!!

 

[centralpilot]

- Have heard a rumor of USAir flying for ASA out of LGA, but that's a pretty wild rumor.

That is clearly false. I assume you have the airlines backwards. Otherwise that really is a wild rumor!

 

[COOPERVANE]

Remember...............TFAYD!!

 

[COOPERVANE]

All you little people.

 

[Sherpa]

I waited and waited for a uniform change and finally broke down and spent some money on updating my winter stuff with the silver velcro epaulets and such so we should be switching to gold soon. Now I just need to go out and purchase an iPad and we'll be all set.

Russ at flight station tried to sell me a set of gold epaulets and said ASA is already wearing gold (hopefully not yellow). Hmm, news to me. I'm sure it's right around the corner though.

 

[centralpilot]

I waited and waited for a uniform change and finally broke down and spent some money on updating my winter stuff with the silver velcro epaulets and such so we should be switching to gold soon.

According to SH, expect new uniform guidelines in October or November. On the other hand that isn't the most reliable source...

 

[ohplease!]

I waited and waited for a uniform change and finally broke down and spent some money on updating my winter stuff with the silver velcro epaulets and such so we should be switching to gold soon. Now I just need to go out and purchase an iPad and we'll be all set.

Russ at flight station tried to sell me a set of gold epaulets and said ASA is already wearing gold (hopefully not yellow). Hmm, news to me. I'm sure it's right around the corner though.

The company has to pay for all of your accessories if they change them. That's one of the reasons we will wear gold....cheaper....

 

[drinksonme]

Getting deeper and deeper into the dark pit that is contract negotiations and the two MECs can't even get along./QUOTE]


I am confused, where did you hear this? Last I heard, the MEC's were playing nice with each other, and on the same page with current issues being negotiated. I have heard it is the company that is stonewalling the entire process now. They have been stuck on crap like Foriegn Flying because of the company for some time. They are not even to the stuff that is really important in the contract, and the company is already slowing things down....wow. So they want the merger done, but they do not want to negotiate to get it done. From an ALPA rep at XJT, ASA management walked in thinking this would go quick, and offered up a turd of an opener at the negotiations. Once the company got an idea of what the pilot group is looking for, then actually realized the pilots were serious, they quickly change their approach to the meetings and started slowing the process. Guess getting the merger done to create those savings must not be so important.

 

[JoeMerchant]

Getting deeper and deeper into the dark pit that is contract negotiations and the two MECs can't even get along./QUOTE]


I am confused, where did you hear this? Last I heard, the MEC's were playing nice with each other, and on the same page with current issues being negotiated. I have heard it is the company that is stonewalling the entire process now. They have been stuck on crap like Foriegn Flying because of the company for some time. They are not even to the stuff that is really important in the contract, and the company is already slowing things down....wow. So they want the merger done, but they do not want to negotiate to get it done. From an ALPA rep at XJT, ASA management walked in thinking this would go quick, and offered up a turd of an opener at the negotiations. Once the company got an idea of what the pilot group is looking for, then actually realized the pilots were serious, they quickly change their approach to the meetings and started slowing the process. Guess getting the merger done to create those savings must not be so important.

The joint MEC meeting last week didn't go well. One ASA MEC member was expelled from the meeting and one MEC walked out over objections to the other MEC....Put down your ALPA koolaid...The stuff will kill ya.....

 

[Nevets]

I waited and waited for a uniform change and finally broke down and spent some money on updating my winter stuff with the silver velcro epaulets and such so we should be switching to gold soon. Now I just need to go out and purchase an iPad and we'll be all set.

Russ at flight station tried to sell me a set of gold epaulets and said ASA is already wearing gold (hopefully not yellow). Hmm, news to me. I'm sure it's right around the corner though.

FWIW, CT already said to us in one of his jet streams a couple of months ago or so that we were all going to gold epaulets.

The joint MEC meeting last week didn't go well. One ASA MEC member was expelled from the meeting and one MEC walked out over objections to the other MEC....Put down your ALPA koolaid...The stuff will kill ya.....

I'm cautiously optimistic that they will get on one page on the scheduling section. I know our guys are reasonable. They'll have a heck of a sell job to the rank and file though.

 

[Sherpa]

FWIW, CT already said to us in one of his jet streams a couple of months ago or so that we were all going to gold epaulets.

Yeah, but I was hoping it would be before it got cold and I had to tailor my uniforms.

I've heard that new hires, even ASA, are getting gold instead of silver now. I haven't flown with any yet but being the cheap bastard that I am, I was hoping to save my PBR money and have the company update my goods sooner.

We will all be one happy, as pilots can be, airline soon.

 

[IHateDaley]

Yeah, but I was hoping it would be before it got cold and I had to tailor my uniforms.

I've heard that new hires, even ASA, are getting gold instead of silver now. I haven't flown with any yet but being the cheap bastard that I am, I was hoping to save my PBR money and have the company update my goods sooner.

We will all be one happy, as pilots can be, airline soon.

There are no ASA new hires.

 

[Freebrd]

As long as No Hats I'll wear purple! But then if The Tabernacle keeps us separated we might stil wear silver?

 

[princeton]

So back on topic... ASA is losing 8 CRJ700s, possibly 6 CRJ200s, waiting for the hammer to fall on downgrades, upgrades have probably shot up to 8 years or so... (upgrades are at least 6 years right now) ....

On the up side XJT is hiring and upgrading into the new year. Just announced 64 upgrades between nov and jan, so that'll probably keep upgrades at 5.5 years (04/06 or 05/06 hire).

When the merger is completed (if ever) all the upgrades will probably be for ASA folks (as long as you don't mind going ERJ).

We've also had a lot of guys leaving for JetBlue so the movement should continue.

 

[HA25]

The joint MEC meeting last week didn't go well. One ASA MEC member was expelled from the meeting and one MEC walked out over objections to the other MEC.... ...

Some things just never change... /sigh

 

[centralpilot]

On the up side XJT is hiring and upgrading into the new year. Just announced 64 upgrades between nov and jan, so that'll probably keep upgrades at 5.5 years (04/06 or 05/06 hire).

That must be nice. People with those hire dates at ASA were teased with getting close to upgrade in the junior domiciles, but will likely be moving backwards again.

 

[777forever]

That must be nice. People with those hire dates at ASA were teased with getting close to upgrade in the junior domiciles, but will likely be moving backwards again.

You never know things could change. Heard Eagle is looking for a new ATR contractor in 2012