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Court Injunction Against USAPA GRANTED

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TWA Dude

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Injunction (Doc. No. 10) against USAPA and HEREBY ORDERS:
1. USAPA and its members, agents, and employees, and all persons and
organizations acting by, in concert with, through, or under it, or by and through its order, are
enjoined from permitting, instigating, authorizing, encouraging, participating in, approving, or
continuing any interference with Plaintiff’s airline operations, including, but not limited to, any
slowdown, strike, work stoppage, sick-out, work to rule campaign, or any concerted refusal to
perform normal pilot operations in violation of the RLA, pending a hearing on the permanent
injunction.
2. USAPA shall take all reasonable steps within its power to prevent the aforesaid
actions and to refrain from continuing the aforesaid actions if commenced, including, but not
limited to, the following:
a. Instructing all pilots represented by USAPA and employed by Plaintiff to resume
their normal working schedule and practices and providing Plaintiff a copy of all
such instructions;
b. Notifying all pilots represented by USAPA and employed by Plaintiff, by the
most expeditious means possible, of the issuance, contents, and meaning of this
Preliminary Injunction and providing Plaintiff a copy of all such notices;
c. Including in such notice a directive from USAPA to US Airways’s pilots who are
engaging in a concerted refusal to perform normal pilot operations, including but
not limited to, slow taxiing, writing up all maintenance items, calling in fatigued,
delaying flights, refusing to answer a call from the scheduling, refusing to fly an
aircraft that meets the requirements for flight, or refusing to accept voluntary or
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overtime flying, to cease and desist all such activity and to cease and desist all
exhortations or communications encouraging same.
d. Posting the notice described above on Defendant USAPA’s internet websites and
providing Plaintiff a copy of the notices;
e. Including the contents of such notice on any and all recorded telephone hotlines
under control of USAPA, until such time as the Court has acted on Plaintiff’s
Motion for a Permanent Injunction, and providing Plaintiff a copy of all such
messages; and
f. Distributing the contents of such notice through all non-public communication
systems maintained by USAPA, including any telephone trees, text message lists,
pilot-to-pilot communication systems, or similar systems, and providing Plaintiff
a copy of the notices.
3. USAPA is prohibited from including in such notices (or distributing
contemporaneously with such notices) any statements that are intended or could reasonably be
interpreted to mean that pilots should continue to engage in the previously-described conduct
notwithstanding the Preliminary Injunction.
4. USAPA shall report to the Court by 5 p.m. on October 4, 2011, by sworn
affidavit, the methods used to effect the notice described above to all USAPA-represented pilots,
and furnish to the Court copies of all notices required to be furnished to the Plaintiff under the
Court’s Order.
 
To the Easties who are wondering what this means:

If it's broken, write it up. If you're sick, call in sick. Behave like a professional pilot and you've nothing to fear from the courts or the company. Not every Eastie participated in the illegal work actions but if it continues expect many terminations and perhaps court fines. (Just ask the APA about ignoring a court injunction.)
 
To the Easties who are wondering what this means:

If it's broken, write it up. If you're sick, call in sick. Behave like a professional pilot and you've nothing to fear from the courts or the company. Not every Eastie participated in the illegal work actions but if it continues expect many terminations and perhaps court fines. (Just ask the APA about ignoring a court injunction.)

This whole thing is a prelude to....you not getting an LOA 93 "Snap-Back"!!

BOHICA

:laugh:
 
This is what happens when you use safety as a bargaining tactic. Now all write-ups become suspicious, all sick calls require a note and fatigue calls can be scrutinized.

Way to go USAPA. Well done.
 
To the Easties who are wondering what this means:

If it's broken, write it up. If you're sick, call in sick. Behave like a professional pilot and you've nothing to fear from the courts or the company. Not every Eastie participated in the illegal work actions but if it continues expect many terminations and perhaps court fines. (Just ask the APA about ignoring a court injunction.)

I find it incredible that US AIRWAYS finds a judge to fast track a decision against the union, but Kasher has 24 months or longer to issue a decision in LOA 93.

But the way the Judge writes the decision, I guess you better not write any maint issues up or call in sick (east or west) since you'll be in violation of the courts order (as well as be in violation of FAR's for flying a plane that is not airworthy or flying fatigued?)

Metrojet
 
I find it incredible that US AIRWAYS finds a judge to fast track a decision against the union, but Kasher has 24 months or longer to issue a decision in LOA 93.

Metrojet

Don't worry Metro, the LOA 93 decision is right around the corner...and you aren't going to like it!
 
how can you be ordered to accept voluntary overtime? isn't that what voluntary means. and who is to say what a reasonable taxi speed is. This is ridiculous that a judge who knows nothing about aviation is telling pilots how to operate their planes. Isn't this what we get paid for, safe operation of aircraft? This stuff has got to stop or we will have a member of congress write our SOPs based on xyz airline's profitability.
 
I find it incredible that US AIRWAYS finds a judge to fast track a decision against the union, but Kasher has 24 months or longer to issue a decision in LOA 93.
then you're naive. The two issues couldn't be more different.
But the way the Judge writes the decision, I guess you better not write any maint issues up or call in sick (east or west) since you'll be in violation of the courts order (as well as be in violation of FAR's for flying a plane that is not airworthy or flying fatigued?)
Metrojet
the judge will only consider contempt charges if the company collects more evidence. Don't give them that evidence and you've nothing to worry about.
 
Great job, USAPA. You actually managed to be so inept that you got a judge to order your pilots to answer the phone when crew scheduling calls. Great representation. Sadly, your antics have now set legal precedent for the rest of us, and every other pilot group will have to be even more careful in what they communicate in the future because of you in order to avoid court actions. Thanks, we all really appreciate it.
 
What a sham.
 
I don't know. But he is a Republican.

This^^^
way to go righties.... Patiently waiting for pilots to vote their own interests...
Not holding my breath, but maybe you'll consider that a strong healthy middle class is better in every way, including economically .
And see? Me and PCL agree on a lot of stuff.

What has been created is a serious problem. The safety card has been used now for so long by the east that they now have a judge ordering against our safety decisions. Absolutely ridiculous situation you've created over there.
 
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This^^^
way to go righties.... Patiently waiting for pilots to vote their own interests...
Not holding my breath, but maybe you'll consider that a strong healthy middle class is better in every way, including economically .
And see? Me and PCL agree on a lot of stuff.

What has been created is a serious problem. The safety card has been used now for so long by the east that they now have a judge ordering against our safety decisions. Absolutely ridiculous situation you've created over there.

Well said wave, SWA will perish without a strong vibrant middle class. The continued growth of the gap between the rich and poor could ultimately kill SWA.
 
what work slow down? other than the hurrican, one day of crappy wx last week and a mx cx in LGA in late July(ish) I can't remember the last time I was late while flying 80 hours/month.
 
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Well said wave, SWA will perish without a strong vibrant middle class. The continued growth of the gap between the rich and poor could ultimately kill SWA.

Just swa Dan? Just swa?
 
Well said wave, SWA will perish without a strong vibrant middle class. The continued growth of the gap between the rich and poor could ultimately kill SWA.
What is middle class? BTW I don't see one post about these middle class pax who are being forced to fly at other airlines because they are unhappy about service.
 
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what work slow down? other than the hurrican, one day of crappy wx last week and a mx cx in LGA in late July(ish) I can't remember the last time I was late while flying 80 hours/month.

Your trips may go great, but it is documented in a 140 page report by Dr. D. Lee. Now a permanent part of court records. You should read the report and the court transcripts. It is all very revealing. USAPA has managed to abuse the only leverage that we may have had in a JOINT contract by isolating the east pilot group in its "Safety Campaign".

Now LCC has "our union" by the pistachios. Any perceived failure to comply WILL result in TERMINATIONS. I would presume that there is a list of people expected to "not comply".

We could have been negotiating our SECOND post merger contract (like Delta). Our lawyer that promised the east DOH has collected over 10 MILLION dollars of our dues money, and is extricating himself from this debacle. Now who knows what is going to happen. What a shame.:(
 
Just swa Dan? Just swa?

All you need to do is look at the wealth transfer in the US and you can see where we are headed. Largest wealth gap in the developed world, and growing by the minute. Soon, there will be no "middle class", only the rich and the poor.

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