Quiz for the union chest thumpers.

[JoeMerchant]

Which regional hasn't furloughed and pays near the top?

 

[RJLoser]

Skywest? Wait. Nevermind

 

[i fly boxes]

pinnacle

 

[james1]

pinnacle

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha....it hurts stop...ha ha ha ha ha ha... That was a good one

 

[RJLoser]

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha....it hurts stop...ha ha ha ha ha ha... That was a good one

Funny but true.

 

[Abernathy]

Which regional hasn't furloughed and pays near the top?

They use the threat of a union. Not as black and white as you think.

 

[JoeMerchant]

pinnacle

Pinnacle pays near the top? They own Mesaba now too...Has Mesaba furloughed?

 

[JoeMerchant]

Funny but true.

...not true...

 

[JoeMerchant]

They use the threat of a union. Not as black and white as you think.

It's pretty black and white unless you want to color the union in....

 

[Salukipilot4590]

Compass Airlines.

 

[SLUF4]

So why don't you work for them?

 

[Salukipilot4590]

So why don't you work for them?

I don't?

 

[SLUF4]

I was talking to the Joe Merchant

 

[Freebrd]

Which regional hasn't furloughed and pays near the top?

so quit and go with them, isn't that what you tell everyone else :smash:

 

[WWEfan]

Which regional hasn't furloughed and pays near the top?

Jet Blue?

 

[BankAccount=0$]

Horizon

 

[brokeflyer]

gotta be either mesa or colgan right?

 

[PCL_128]

Pinnacle has furloughed. Briefly back in 2001.

 

[BillJBrake]

Southwest?

 

[SpauldingSmails]

I'm not entirely sure that it is a salient point that unionization or not would define effective management and profitability an airline .

I think few would argue that a unionized workforce would guarantee that layoffs would never occur, nor that it would mean that there is an intrinsic tie between a unionized pilot group and profitability; hence the ability for management to offer its employees a top wage through bargaining. Even non-unionized carriers often compete with union carriers wages in order to continue attracting talent. It doesn't necessarily mean that one place is superior to another.

Results may vary based on market conditions. Look at AC Jazz, look at the fortunes of Mesa. Both unionized, but different products and management teams.

I find it slightly ironic that if it were not for the union negotiated work-rules on Joe's property that he would not likely be touting his own quality of life and payscale that he currently enjoys, and by his own admission keeps him at ASA as opposed to moving on.

 

[SLUF4]

It's funny that he always complains about the union like it's the root of all evil, but yet he stays at a unionized carrier. If I was that miserable about it I'd leave.

 

[Freebrd]

aww he's just posting to get a rise outa everybody

 

[crj567]

It's funny that he always complains about the union like it's the root of all evil, but yet he stays at a unionized carrier. If I was that miserable about it I'd leave.

I sure bet GoJet will be hiring!

 

[nimtz]

Looks like it's an especially dull weekend in the pathetic life that is Joe Merchant.

 

[homerjdispatch]

Looks like it's an especially dull weekend in the pathetic life that is Joe Merchant.

But he is correct!

 

[SLUF4]

doesn't mean it won't happen in the future; up until a few years ago you could have said the same thing about some of the union carriers that have furloughed. I'm not a "union chest thumper"; I just am tired of hearing him somehow correlate everything bad back to ALPA-it's tiring.

 

[badog]

Horizon

pow ! take that moe merchant
lets go with air whiskey dooshe!
beat that pay scale peckerwood

 

[nimtz]

But he is correct!

Skywest's growth and success is 100% tied to BK creditors gutting this career. Now the market is over saturated with paltry margins. Uncle Jerry's circus doesn't succeed on magical non-unionized power. Skywest has peaked as a stellar career choice even for dispatchers.

 

[ex j-41]

There is more to a union than pay rates. All pilots should be thankful of the past union paying pilots because if not for them many of the safety standards we enjoy today would not exist. Ie: standard runway markings/lighting, ils, control towers, navaids etc....
It was Alpa that lobbied the government to make our jobs safer. Now what skywest pilot did that?

 

[say again]

Southwest?

Lame!