Why the long delay on our LOA 93 arbitration?

[becket]

What about the rumor that you guys have a CAL scab and Freedom Scab in leadership positions in the "association"

That's fact. Not a rumor.

 

[becket]

This suffering started way before USAPA even existed, USAPA just inherited the mess of ALPA and a drunk CEO of a regional airline. USAPA has done quite well in protecting the pilots of USAir and defending our seniority from junior strike breaking pilots- you know who Im talking about!

How painful it must be to know with certainty that your career was saved by a drunk regional CEO...the big mighty US Airways with nearly 2000 pilots already unemployed and days away from total shutdown. USAPA isn't defending anything except Doug Parker's bonus and FPL.

but since when are facts important to Eastinfections?

 

[charlie2]

How painful it must be to know with certainty that your career was saved by a drunk regional CEO...the big mighty US Airways with nearly 2000 pilots already unemployed and days away from total shutdown. USAPA isn't defending anything except Doug Parker's bonus and FPL.

but since when are facts important to Eastinfections?

I know a bunch of guys who wished the company just died back then. If that had happened another better company or companies would have come in and started flying our shuttle stuff, our Caribbean stuff and our Europe stuff so they would have had to grow and hire. Doug "saving" me kept me from getting hired at a much better place. Dougs' airline really sucks and the one he had before this really sucked unless you like low pay and bad work rules that is. Thanks alot for "saving" me westies. Now, arbitrators do not take into account the DUI history of the CEO or the dysfunctional union when hired to hear a case concerning a very specific thing like LOA 93. LOA 93 has absolutely nothing to do with you guys Becket. It has nothing to do with the M/A. It has to do with the east pilots giving up so much to keep the company from liquidating and the paragraph concerning the pay rates specifically had an experation date. Becket, does the industry leading contract that you negotiating geniuses' got with ALPA some years ago have end dates after each section or is ther one at the end of the contract. Exactly, so why would they put an end date right after the paragraph dictating the draconian pay cuts ALPA agreed to?

 

[Bringupthebird]

No, the east gave up so much in order to keep the next paycheck coming. They simply chose to pay themselves with their retirement money. Now they work for a viable airline and they want to pretend the past never happened and the wolf at the door was a puppy all along, and they knew it.

Sorry, the same "full pay to the last day" morons that cost you your pensions are the same ones running USAPA and they haven't learned a thing from their mistakes!

 

[becket]

I know a bunch of guys who wished the company just died back then. If that had happened another better company or companies would have come in and started flying our shuttle stuff, our Caribbean stuff and our Europe stuff so they would have had to grow and hire. Doug "saving" me kept me from getting hired at a much better place. Dougs' airline really sucks and the one he had before this really sucked unless you like low pay and bad work rules that is. Thanks alot for "saving" me westies. Now, arbitrators do not take into account the DUI history of the CEO or the dysfunctional union when hired to hear a case concerning a very specific thing like LOA 93. LOA 93 has absolutely nothing to do with you guys Becket. It has nothing to do with the M/A. It has to do with the east pilots giving up so much to keep the company from liquidating and the paragraph concerning the pay rates specifically had an experation date. Becket, does the industry leading contract that you negotiating geniuses' got with ALPA some years ago have end dates after each section or is ther one at the end of the contract. Exactly, so why would they put an end date right after the paragraph dictating the draconian pay cuts ALPA agreed to?

HA!!!! So NOW it's Doug Parker's Fault for SAVING your career?!!! Holy Crap, you guys never seem to run out of ways of being the faultless "victim".

Here's a hint, you should have done what 80% of your furloughed buddies did, NOT COME BACK!! Stevie Wonder could see what a Sh** Airline US Air was. Nothing has changed unfortunately and now you actually believe you're going to FORCE the West pilots into paying for your incredibly stupid mistake.

I don't think so. Choke on LOA93 and those Foodstamps MF'r.

 

[charlie2]

HA!!!! So NOW it's Doug Parker's Fault for SAVING your career?!!! Holy Crap, you guys never seem to run out of ways of being the faultless "victim".

Here's a hint, you should have done what 80% of your furloughed buddies did, NOT COME BACK!! Stevie Wonder could see what a Sh** Airline US Air was. Nothing has changed unfortunately and now you actually believe you're going to FORCE the West pilots into paying for your incredibly stupid mistake.

I don't think so. Choke on LOA93 and those Foodstamps MF'r.

The funny thing is agree with everything you just said. I might add though it was your mistake for buying us.

 

[St. Nic]

I know a bunch of guys who wished the company just died back then. If that had happened another better company or companies would have come in and started flying our shuttle stuff, our Caribbean stuff and our Europe stuff so they would have had to grow and hire. Doug "saving" me kept me from getting hired at a much better place. Dougs' airline really sucks and the one he had before this really sucked unless you like low pay and bad work rules that is. Thanks alot for "saving" me westies. Now, arbitrators do not take into account the DUI history of the CEO or the dysfunctional union when hired to hear a case concerning a very specific thing like LOA 93. LOA 93 has absolutely nothing to do with you guys Becket. It has nothing to do with the M/A. It has to do with the east pilots giving up so much to keep the company from liquidating and the paragraph concerning the pay rates specifically had an experation date. Becket, does the industry leading contract that you negotiating geniuses' got with ALPA some years ago have end dates after each section or is ther one at the end of the contract. Exactly, so why would they put an end date right after the paragraph dictating the draconian pay cuts ALPA agreed to?

Amen!

 

[becket]

The funny thing is agree with everything you just said. I might add though it was your mistake for buying us.

I assure you I wasn't consulted.

 

[cactusboy53]

This suffering started way before USAPA even existed, USAPA just inherited the mess of ALPA and a drunk CEO of a regional airline. USAPA has done quite well in protecting the pilots of USAir and defending our seniority from junior strike breaking pilots- you know who Im talking about!

There's that little bowl of sunshine that we all know & love. Don't forget that we AWA was a dirt bag airline run by smugglers. We all know what a bunch of up-standing right flying dudes you all are, and how you would never screw up an airline with criminals, dirtbags, drunks, camera peepshow operators, & trigger happy shooters.....:erm:

It's going to be a very interesting month or two. Keep the pop corn handy.

 

[Metrojet]

Don't blame Kasher. The only thing hurting your pilot group is USAPA. Why most Eastholes can't see that is impossible to understand. If Kasher absolutely lost his mind and awarded half a billion dollars to the East you have to know that Parker would never pay a cent of it. He flatly stated so. It's just going to be another epic legal battle that will end when every Usapian retires or dies. The sooner USAPA gets tossed on the trash heap the sooner a real union can enter the property, the sooner life can improve for EVERYBODY not just the East at the sole expense of the West.

Let me send you a box of tissues for all that crying your still doing - sorry your lottery ticket is getting old and yellow around th edges -

Metrojet
P.S. - those terms of endearment that you like to use - "Eastholes, Usapian," etc is getting worn out - don't you think it is time to come up with some new terms for insults?

 

[charlie2]

I assure you I wasn't consulted.

Exactly...a group of investors worked with our managements to make this merger happen so no pilot should ever say "we saved you" cause you weren't even consulted about it.

 

[cactusboy53]

Let me send you a box of tissues for all that crying your still doing - sorry your lottery ticket is getting old and yellow around th edges -

Metrojet
P.S. - those terms of endearment that you like to use - "Eastholes, Usapian," etc is getting worn out - don't you think it is time to come up with some new terms for insults?

Jet;
Don't need the box of tissues. All is well in PHX. Awaiting Judge Conrad's decision in the next day or so. Judge Silver (while quite busy) is moving through the minutia that USAPA has flung on her wall. Meanwhile back at the ranch in CLT....it appears that the wheels on the USAPA's little red wagon are coming off the axles. Lurch is on the prowl (here's a video of the first meeting...http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=dvBxQsgr6PI)

Don't know about the "old yellow" lottery ticket. Mine is sitting in a hermetically sealed envelope on Funk & Wagnall's porch since noon on May 3, 2007!

GTG. I'm out of pop corn & grape soda. It's gonna get good!