UAL orders IPADs

[whatitdoing?]

Just had a linecheck the other day and the IP said that they had a conference call this week when our VP Flight Ops stated that the order has been made to Apple and they expect the shipment to be made in August. For what it's worth.........

 

[4got2flare]

2nd, line check yesterday with same statement. Also, system bid is waiting on Boeing and 787 time info. Right now 2012 has 25 deliveries. 19 737-9ER and 6 787's. Said losing 2 767-2's and 5 737-5's in 12.

Flying 91.5 hours skd, we need pilots...

 

[densoo]

Flying 91.5 hours skd, we need pilots...

90% on time. No they don't.

 

[Hamfighter]

New whiz-wheels for Delta!

 

[Yuppyguppy]

2nd, line check yesterday with same statement. Also, system bid is waiting on Boeing and 787 time info. Right now 2012 has 25 deliveries. 19 737-9ER and 6 787's. Said losing 2 767-2's and 5 737-5's in 12.

Flying 91.5 hours skd, we need pilots...

There are UAL furloughees that would be happy right now to have a major airline career back. The delieveries coupled with the age 65 appears to be a perfect storm and in the typical fashion of UAL they will be way behind the power curve. I would expect those with less than a year to be using their schedule enhancement hours until they run out as well which will short circuit manpower planning. All this with NO F'ING CONTRACT.

 

[4got2flare]

What's that saying? 1 sick call away from the perfect schedule, ok at CAL, maybe 2...

Hoping for all returns soon...

 

[whatitdoing?]

Ya, been flying 90+ hours a month. I'm in the middle of 4 on 2 off 4 on 2 off 4 on......wtf. But I've been doing it almost every month. This isn't a summer thing!!! It's a CAL shortstaffed POS airline thing. Problem is, we're understaffed at CAL, overstaffed at UAL. In fact, their reducing United's block hours and parking a few planes. How's that gonna play in the future? Who knows, but I'm concerned about this Transition Agreement expiring and protections for the United side. Will they furlough? I doubt it, but it's turning into a perfect storm and a tool to spread fear for another POS contract. God help us...........

 

[bluefin]

Simple solution, SOC=70 seater's. Smilton is all out to get the soc and bring in more rjs and then kick more UAL pilots to the street. This wasn't a merger, it was an acquisition of the United brand, hefty paycheck, and UAL's 70 scope(lol).

 

[DontFeedTheBear]

Ok, so now it's official! Chief Pilot's office in EWR has put out a blastmail, iPad 2 's will be here in August for the 737 first, then shipsets by Oct.

 

[densoo]

Ok, so now it's official! Chief Pilot's office in EWR has put out a blastmail, iPad 2 's will be here in August for the 737 first, then shipsets by Oct.

I'm skeptical. Nothing happens that fast at UCAL. They've got to set up a power source, mounting brackets, the Jepp contract, ROE for use, and issues yet unknown. They might get a few delivered in August for the PR value and to blow smoke at the pilots, but I don't see it fully deployed until next year, maybe even a year from now.

As I recall, they officially announced getting rid of the -500 at least two years ago. They've still get them.

 

[densoo]

Ok, so now it's official! Chief Pilot's office in EWR has put out a blast mail....

Also a chief pilot blast mail does not make it official. They routinely put out misinformation, anti-union misdirection, and are often simply wrong. If there was a system bid "with vacancies" every time they told someone this CAL would have 10K pilots by now.

CPs are at the bottom of the food chain and are often used by management to float a trial balloon, counter union successes, or just wear pilots out with rumors and conflicting info.

 

[145BOSS]

The FAA approved the iPad for inflight use without an alternate power source. Not sure what the charging procedure will be.

 

[Skychief]

The iPad will NOT be an EFB......Thus no mounting bracket or alternate power source required....it will have Jepps/enroute charts, AOM, FOM & MEL.....because it will not be an EFB, we will have to use paper charts still.....thus the ship sets coming in Oct....it will be turned off below 10,000 Feet......this is all directly from Steve Arnold.

 

[densoo]

The iPad will NOT be an EFB......Thus no mounting bracket or alternate power source required....it will have Jepps/enroute charts, AOM, FOM & MEL.....because it will not be an EFB, we will have to use paper charts still.....thus the ship sets coming in Oct....it will be turned off below 10,000 Feet......this is all directly from Steve Arnold.

?! So it's simply to use to study manuals at cruise?

 

[whatitdoing?]

The iPad will NOT be an EFB......Thus no mounting bracket or alternate power source required....it will have Jepps/enroute charts, AOM, FOM & MEL.....because it will not be an EFB, we will have to use paper charts still.....thus the ship sets coming in Oct....it will be turned off below 10,000 Feet......this is all directly from Steve Arnold.

It won't include any Jepps or enroute charts. They want to move to that, but until they can resolve the bracket, power source, and safety features involved with FAA certification, it's pointless. I don't understand why we're getting them if it can't be used as an EFB.

 

[whatitdoing?]

?! So it's simply to use to study manuals at cruise?

Or porn....

 

[Skychief]

For what it is worth, I was told the break even point with the ipad verses the cost of paper revisions is five years.........I imagine that will be accelerated when they get finally get approval to use it as an EFB....then paper Jepp revisions will be gone.....so the company is probably looking a a substantial savings over the long haul by doing this....that answers why we are getting them....

 

[DontFeedTheBear]

For what it is worth, I was told the break even point with the ipad verses the cost of paper revisions is five years.........I imagine that will be accelerated when they get finally get approval to use it as an EFB....then paper Jepp revisions will be gone.....so the company is probably looking a a substantial savings over the long haul by doing this....

There is also the cost savings of OJI's.

 

[SKC]

I don't understand why we're getting them if it can't be used as an EFB.

Angry Birds.

 

[list2002]

Our manual updates that will be constantly changing during the merger process would cost a lot of ink and trees as well.