Interview at Airways

[dav8or]

Looking for gouge on the US Air interview.

 

[SEVEN]

http://www.mypilotcareer.com/us-airways-interview-gouge

 

[johnsonrod]

I don't get it. Are ex-America West pilots still furloughed? How is USAirways hiring again if people are still on the street? Has everyone been called? What aircraft type are they hiring into - the E190?

 

[grog_sit_reserv]

Ex AWA guys are still on the street. They are allowed to bypass recall to the East and wait for a West recall. Because of that there will be West Furloughees for a while.

In the meantime the East is understaffed, so they've started hiring.

Good luck.

 

[greyskyracer]

Looking for gouge on the US Air interview.

Did you get called for an interview?

 

[miaboeingcapt]

Looking for gouge on the US Air interview.

http://www.willflyforfood.com/pilot-interviews/198/US-Airways.html

 

[johnsonrod]

Ex AWA guys are still on the street. They are allowed to bypass recall to the East and wait for a West recall. Because of that there will be West Furloughees for a while.

In the meantime the East is understaffed, so they've started hiring.

Good luck.

I am sorry but that BLOWS. West guys prefer to stay furloughed (or at another gig) than go to openings on the East side. What a seriously lame "merger." No wonder Doug wants to marry-off USAirways to any takers...

 

[Jar Jar]

I am sorry but that BLOWS. West guys prefer to stay furloughed (or at another gig) than go to openings on the East side. What a seriously lame "merger." No wonder Doug wants to marry-off USAirways to any takers...

Its even better when East cancels an airbus flight due to maintenance, and there is a West airbus right next door that they can't use instead because it is West metal.

 

[cactusboy53]

I am sorry but that BLOWS. West guys prefer to stay furloughed (or at another gig) than go to openings on the East side. What a seriously lame "merger." No wonder Doug wants to marry-off USAirways to any takers...

These folks have their own reasons for the east bypass. I think that many of them have better paying gigs and choose to stay away until they can return to the west contract vs. commuting to PHL or CLT. I also believe that many of them will not return at all. I think the number still out is around 50+.

You also have to remember that since there are two separate pilot groups, any west pilot accepting employment in the east has a "new seniority number" because of separate operations. The "suck" factor comes in when the west pilot is placed below any "third list" pilot that has chosen to return to the east. The company is OK with this, and USAPA is really OK with this (never mind the fact that the west pilot would be senior to the third list pilot on either the Nicolau seniority list OR the Date-Of-Hire seniority list).

I would look for more recalls in the west around Summer time (a guess). Perhaps hiring by the first part of 2012 (also a guess).

Best of luck to the interviewees! We'll see yo around the block soon. :beer:

 

[Flybywire44]

Who is or has interviewed with USA? PM me.

 

[Bringupthebird]

The "suck" factor comes in when the west pilot is placed below any "third list" pilot that has chosen to return to the east. The company is OK with this, and USAPA is really OK with this (never mind the fact that the west pilot would be senior to the third list pilot on either the Nicolau seniority list OR the Date-Of-Hire seniority list).
:beer:

Are you sure about that? I thought the 3rd list consisted of new hires added after the PID but before integration of the joint list (contract ratification). Weren't the east pilots that were recalled to the west given their east longevity [as 3rd listers] on the west and let out of any seat locks to return to the east whenever they wanted?

The real shame is that this has dragged on so long as to become ancient history, taxing the memory!

 

[Trogdor]

Are you sure about that? I thought the 3rd list consisted of new hires added after the PID but before integration of the joint list (contract ratification). Weren't the east pilots that were recalled to the west given their east longevity [as 3rd listers] on the west and let out of any seat locks to return to the east whenever they wanted?

The real shame is that this has dragged on so long as to become ancient history, taxing the memory!

West pilots out east keep their longevity for pay purposes, but are placed below any original east or 3rd list east pilots on the seniority list. Any west pilots who accept east recall will be slotted in with other original west or 3rd list west pilots in their original order.

For what its worth, as an east 3rd lister I don't think this is the right thing to do.

 

[denny]

USAPA adheres tightly to the Frank Lorenzo style of union management.

 

[FR8mastr]

sorry to burst the balloon of all the USAPA bashers, but...

The way any and all recalls and newhire positions are filled goes according to the Transition Agreement.

The Transition Agreement for those of you who really don't know is a new section of contract that covers this exact scenario and others like who flies what.

This was put into place by ALPA both East and West long before any of the current crap took place.

 

[Bringupthebird]

Was the intent of the designers of the transition agreemment that it last indefinitely?