EFB (iPad) distrubution question

[matthewjohn]

If you are more than a one or two pilot operation, does your department supply an iPad for each pilot and make it their responsibility or do the have a "ship set" and have someone delegated to keeping them updated and maintained?

Thx

 

[Bleeds On]

Ipad for each with one spare. Problem with updates(using Foreflight) is some of the guys have a DSL connection. That will take many, many hours so I tend to do the updates for those guys.

 

[Kingairrick]

1 per pilot. jeppview takes ~30 seconds to update over wireless.

 

[BigMike]

Each pilot should get one. We had to buy our own, but the company provides the Jeppesen subscription.
Like Kingarrick says it's a matter of seconds to download.

 

[geojet707]

We keep a 3G version on the airplane. Works better that trying to keep several updated with subscriptions, etc.

 

[BoilerUP]

We keep a 3G version on the airplane.

That's what we do...although we may get another 16G 3G so both of us can have one.

 

[JJET44]

We're a 2 pilot, 1 airplane operation. I have an iPad and my partner is soon going to get one, now that we have seen it in action. I expensed it to the company along with all software and hardware.
We're gonna wait till Jepp gets geographical referencing before we ditch the paper and switch, but for now we use Foreflight w/ paper back-up.

 

[semperfido]

we are getting each pilot their own. just as we did for laptops and iphones.

 

[bailey3083]

We are days from starting our 6 month period of testing so we may remove all paper from the plane Jepps, Manuals, checklists, etc. We are issuing each pilot their own iPad but they sign a contract that states they will not install anything other then company, aircraft or FAA materials on the iPad. Each iPad is subject to check by myself or the DO at any point and if we find any non company specific material the pilot is fined $100 for each occurrence. The contract also states the pilot will return the iPad in the same condition, other then standard wear and tear, upon termination or resignation or he/she will have a lien in the equal amount to the iPad placed on the individual.
I know this all sounds extreme but this is an expensive item.

 

[Bleeds On]

We are days from starting our 6 month period of testing so we may remove all paper from the plane Jepps, Manuals, checklists, etc. We are issuing each pilot their own iPad but they sign a contract that states they will not install anything other then company, aircraft or FAA materials on the iPad. Each iPad is subject to check by myself or the DO at any point and if we find any non company specific material the pilot is fined $100 for each occurrence. The contract also states the pilot will return the iPad in the same condition, other then standard wear and tear, upon termination or resignation or he/she will have a lien in the equal amount to the iPad placed on the individual.
I know this all sounds extreme but this is an expensive item.

Sounds like you don't trust your pilots.

 

[Gulfstream 200]

We are days from starting our 6 month period of testing so we may remove all paper from the plane Jepps, Manuals, checklists, etc. We are issuing each pilot their own iPad but they sign a contract that states they will not install anything other then company, aircraft or FAA materials on the iPad. Each iPad is subject to check by myself or the DO at any point and if we find any non company specific material the pilot is fined $100 for each occurrence. The contract also states the pilot will return the iPad in the same condition, other then standard wear and tear, upon termination or resignation or he/she will have a lien in the equal amount to the iPad placed on the individual.
I know this all sounds extreme but this is an expensive item.

I like it....but if you toned it down a bit this stir attempt might have worked, and a few may have actually believed it. LOL.

Even in a business riddled with d-bag insecure clowns, this "iPad policy" would seriously take the cake..

:laugh:

 

[JJET44]

Bailey,
Expensive? Really? Have you ever priced Traditional EFB's? I did. $40,000 for the units, mounts, wiring, STC's, etc. And this dosen't include labor.

 

[JJET44]

Bailey,
If you were flaming this, I fell for it!

 

[gern_blanston]

We are days from starting our 6 month period of testing so we may remove all paper from the plane Jepps, Manuals, checklists, etc. We are issuing each pilot their own iPad but they sign a contract that states they will not install anything other then company, aircraft or FAA materials on the iPad. Each iPad is subject to check by myself or the DO at any point and if we find any non company specific material the pilot is fined $100 for each occurrence. The contract also states the pilot will return the iPad in the same condition, other then standard wear and tear, upon termination or resignation or he/she will have a lien in the equal amount to the iPad placed on the individual.
I know this all sounds extreme but this is an expensive item.

I'm gonna' have to go along with Gulfstream200 on this one. This is a late April Fool's joke, right? If this isn't baitin' us for laughs, it's the saddest bunch of B/S that I've ever encountered in aviation.
Gotta' be a joke. GOT TO BE!! Fines?!? Random inspections?!? liens?!? Contracts?!? For a friggin' iPad?!? Bwahahaha!!!!
If the G-Man and I are wrong, and this is actually company policy, I hope you are looking hard for another job.
When we issued iPads to our pilots, I said, "Hey guys, here's your iPads. Y'all were right, these things are pretty cool. Keep the Jepps current, OK?"

 

[SansPlane]

Bailey,
Expensive? Really? Have you ever priced Traditional EFB's? I did. $40,000 for the units, mounts, wiring, STC's, etc. And this dosen't include labor.

Fish on!

 

[SansPlane]

Bailey,
If you were flaming this, I fell for it!

Damn! Next time G200 might like to play the fish for awhile.

 

[bailey3083]

Sorry to disappoint you guys but it is a true company policy. I do trust my pilot group as they are some of the best in the industry but you as well as I know we can not just hand some one company owned material and say have fun. I had an FO I had to let go because he was browsing porn on his company issued phone.
Maybe other companies are lax on policy but we have rules to protect the individual as well as the company and my job requires me to follow those rules unless they effect safety, aircraft operation or the pilot group. I then work or fight with management to make changes. When I approached the company about converting to electronic means they only agreed to it if the before mentioned policy is in effect. I was stuck between staying with paper so I did not have to bitch slap the pilots or moving to a more efficient process. The savings and economics alone was enough to agree to the policy.
Sometimes you are stuck having to agree to something others disapprove of so you can move forward but there is time in the future, once I show how trustworthy my pilots are, that I can approach management to work out a better policy.
Back to the original posters question. You are best to issue the iPads to the pilot group then to an aircraft.

 

[gern_blanston]

Sorry to disappoint you guys but it is a true company policy. I do trust my pilot group as they are some of the best in the industry but you as well as I know we can not just hand some one company owned material and say have fun.

Wow. Some of the best in the industry? Seems like the best in the industry wouldn't require that short of leash. I mean porn on the company-owned phone? My 3rd grader is smarter than that. I trust my pilot group and did, in fact, just hand each of them an iPad and say have fun. They truly ARE some of the best in the industry. Just lucky I guess. I feel for you.

 

[Gulfstream 200]

Sorry to disappoint you guys but it is a true company policy. I do trust my pilot group as they are some of the best in the industry but you as well as I know we can not just hand some one company owned material and say have fun. I had an FO I had to let go because he was browsing porn on his company issued phone.
Maybe other companies are lax on policy but we have rules to protect the individual as well as the company and my job requires me to follow those rules unless they effect safety, aircraft operation or the pilot group. I then work or fight with management to make changes. When I approached the company about converting to electronic means they only agreed to it if the before mentioned policy is in effect. I was stuck between staying with paper so I did not have to bitch slap the pilots or moving to a more efficient process. The savings and economics alone was enough to agree to the policy.
Sometimes you are stuck having to agree to something others disapprove of so you can move forward but there is time in the future, once I show how trustworthy my pilots are, that I can approach management to work out a better policy.
Back to the original posters question. You are best to issue the iPads to the pilot group then to an aircraft.

I just read that our high schools are giving one to every freshman. No contract. No Nazi inspections. No fines. No "bitch slapping".......just a useful tool that actually saves money.

Good luck on the trustworthy thing (and respect) from your pilots....and you trust them with airplanes?

"cant give them company material and tell them to have fun"

what?

How many told you to stick the stupid iPad up your a$$?

 

[SansPlane]

Wow, I am surprised. I was with G200 because of the $100 fine. I don't know what state you operate from but I am pretty sure that is a no go.