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What everyone has to realize with upgrades is that when (not if) Southwest goes FULL international with it's first wide body, the upgrades will drop to 5-7 years for everyone on the current list. Including all the Airtran guys.

It's the equivelant of looking at Delta in the early days before they went to Europe. The growth potential is off the map.

Southwest will already have 3200+ flights a day feeding a new international network. It's the best domestic to international feed in the nation, easily.

I think all the junior SW/AAI guys are in for a wild ride.

http://www.dallasnews.com/business/...-billion-in-debt-to-help-cover-2011-costs.ece

See if you can extract anything from this article that differs from your sunny assessment regarding SWA taking over the world of international flying. I will give you a hint...

"Any U.S. airline can now fly into London Heathrow, but takeoff and landing rights there are scarce and expensive to acquire."
 
That still makes me laugh to this day. Just what great benefit did we get in the way ALPA exerted its influence in the implementation of the bill?

:bomb:

Quite a bit, actually. I was opposed to the way it was handled, because I believed we could have achieved a phase-in over a longer period of time, and we probably could have held it off completely for at least another year or so. But when it comes right down to it, the protections that ALPA achieved were significant. Under the original bill, which "Saint Paul" wanted, anyone betwen the ages of 60 and 65 could have returned with seniority. ALPA ensured that if you were already retired, you were done. No returning unless you started at the bottom. That saved thousands of furloughs.

If the union was really in it for ALL pilots they would have lobbied to make the switch from 60 to 65 over a 10 year phase in so no one yeargroup would have had the extreme windfall

Some of the people in national leadership positions pushed for exactly that. Unfortunately, they were outnumbered.
 
Who said anything about SWA flying into Heathrow?

This applies to most international flying. Most of the landing slots were locked down decades ago. You don't just start flying to Europe, China or Japan. You need slots to land and gates to park at.
 
This applies to most international flying. Most of the landing slots were locked down decades ago. You don't just start flying to Europe, China or Japan. You need slots to land and gates to park at.

Eh, we'll just establish new focus cities in Goose Bay, Narsarsuaq, Keflavik, and Shannon. who needs London and Paris when you can have the Iceland-Greenland shuttle?
 
Eh, we'll just establish new focus cities in Goose Bay, Narsarsuaq, Keflavik, and Shannon. who needs London and Paris when you can have the Iceland-Greenland shuttle?

Sign me up for Iceland- their ugly chicks are 10's on the American scale
;-)
 

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