US AIR. the industry dark horse 2016???

[john cocktosen]

What are the odds of US AIR becoming a great place to work in the next 5 to 7 yrs?

Big retirements in the east?

relatively quick upgrade?

great contract and merged list as the old farts in the USAPA retire???


There are some big maybes.....but you never know.

 

[jtf]

I don't know when the mass retirements will really take off at USAirways, but I guess eventually a relatively quick upgrade could happen for those who are hired sometime in the next few years. As far a a "great contract" goes- you are not looking at reality unless you are just comparing it to some of the lower regionals. Even the better regionals have a close gap with the current contract.

 

[doh]

Even if the east succeeds in stapling the west, all those westies will upgrade before any new hires. At least one more year of litigation before they even start section 6. Three years to negotiate, two more years to litigate the negotiatiated CBA, and five more years until a sullen, silent treatment environment exists. Odds: 1,000,000,000:1 that it will be a good place to fly.

 

[Whataburger]

Regardless of the amount of retirements, it will still be USair.

 

[grog_sit_reserv]

And remember, almost half the retirements will come from the FO's, so upgrades won't be all that fast.

 

[Dart]

Any ideas when the hiring window will open?

 

[grog_sit_reserv]

Pretty quick here. I'll try to get some info for ya'

 

[Dart]

Pretty quick here. I'll try to get some info for ya'

That would be great..Thanks!

 

[Captzaahlie]

Dart if it betters your position, of course take the job if/when they offer,
but set your sights higher if you can.

 

[Dart]

It should be a big step up for me. Im at the bottom at my current company and already been furloughed twice in three years. No security, but the flying is great.

 

[Crandal]

Retirement numbers are useless, unless you know what will be the size of the Company in the future. With USAirways they are looking for another Merger, or sell-off so probably more downsizing.

Good Luck

 

[Citjok]

Had the merger with United gone through, the US Airways name would be history today. So knowing that US Airways managment is so in favor of more consolidation probably we will gone eventually. Not because we can't make it on our own, but the CEO's plan for this airline. But then again who the hell knows.

 

[JetMonkey]

Regardless of the amount of retirements, it will still be USair.

Total cheap shot.. If all easties theoretically retired and it was nothing but westies running the show, I'd guarantee it wouldn't be "USair". BTW, looks like US Airways (not USair) will profit more for 2010 that swa.. Bet you didn't see that coming eh?

 

[Question4U]

Total cheap shot.. If all easties theoretically retired and it was nothing but westies running the show, I'd guarantee it wouldn't be "USair". BTW, looks like US Airways (not USair) will profit more for 2010 that swa.. Bet you didn't see that coming eh?

It is a little easier to make a bigger profit when your pilots are paid 50% less.

 

[Erlanger]

Expect an American and US Air merger in 2 to 3 years.

 

[say again]

It is a little easier to make a bigger profit when your pilots are paid 50% less.

Exactly!!! Maybe they should take some of that profit and increase the pay-scale.

 

[Lampshade]

The "union" is happy with the undercutting B scale wages. They've been negotiating for 2+ years and haven't even submitted a payrate proposal to be shot down by the company. Really.

 

[grog_sit_reserv]

Sadly, Lampshade is correct.

 

[dugan jones]

Regardless of the amount of retirements, it will still be USair.

At least we don't layover in Lubbock diamond boy! :laugh:

 

[A-V-8]

Any ideas when the hiring window will open?

The company has not formalized the date as of yet. Looks like they are waiting to know the outcome of the Snap back grievance.

 

[becket]

US Air is fine to use for some quick Jet time but it's insane to expect anything but a miserable "career" there. Doug Parker, the CEO, even said so a few weeks ago in a crew news session. Everything that name touches turns to Schitt. Just like 1983 ain't coming back, either is a valuable career at US Air. Use as a stepping stone and even then be careful.

 

[GuppyWN]

At least we don't layover in Lubbock diamond boy! :laugh:

Yeah. You have a PHL base. Lucky you.

Gup

 

[say again]

At least we don't layover in Lubbock diamond boy! :laugh:

That's all you got?? I'll take the Lubbock layover any day over working for US Airways.

 

[nwaredtail]

Expect an American and US Air merger in 2 to 3 years.

Yeah, I am sure American is thinking, "boy, if we could just buy USAir, that would fix things."

 

[Captzaahlie]

Yeah. You have a PHL base. Lucky you.

Gup

Thats a "touché" if I ever saw one! lol

 

[Captzaahlie]

Yeah, I am sure American is thinking, "boy, if we could just buy USAir, that would fix things."

I agree, BUT it's one of the only combinations that hasn't been tired yet, so these last two will probably dance since they've been sitting on the bench waiting their turn for an ugly partner.

 

[OurMoney1]

I agree, BUT it's one of the only combinations that hasn't been tired yet, so these last two will probably dance since they've been sitting on the bench waiting their turn for an ugly partner.

Wishful thinking.

USAir only brings one thing to the table for AA; more headaches.

Seen alot of power plays in my career but this one doesnt jive.

Next.

 

[B-atch]

If you wish to enjoy a satisfying and fulfilling airline career, STAY AWAY FROM THIS PLACE!!! No pay,work rules, pension,quality of life,etc,etc.
With no end in sight!!
Just take a look at whats happened at US Airways ( USAir) for the last 20 years, and then make-up your own mind..
Remember, an airline career is somewhat like marriage. If you marry the right one, well the rewards are endless. But if you chose poorly, in the end you will be BROKE and heart broken!!

 

[Captzaahlie]

Wishful thinking.

USAir only brings one thing to the table for AA; more headaches.

Seen alot of power plays in my career but this one doesnt jive.

Next.

Not even "wishful" on my part (as I don't

really even plan to take a recall at Americas

most dysfunctional airline) but if it doesn't make

any sense you KNOW both airlines management are

all over it! lol :bomb:

 

[B-atch]

....Oh I forgot, 7 days of VACATION until you complete 8 YEARS OF SERVICE!!!! WTF!!