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Some Regional Predictions from Michael Boyd and the Boyd Group

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I think it's funny frankly. Obviously he's very impressed with himself, considering himself a cut above the rest (or at least regional pilots). In reality he probably has a delicate ego....

Hey Lee, I should have some of my friends who work for large banks, hedge funds, accounting firms come on and run you down for your stupid career choice. They're making your pay 5 years and don't have to deal with goof-ball airline management antics. (And I'm not talking one of your ACME Atlanta banks that's on the FDIC watch list).

I don't berate Gen for his career choice. I mean, where else is some mirco-peckered jackwagon gonna find such a great way to massage his ego and over-compensate for his rather obvious shortcomings?

-He flies a big-ass plane, and that obviously helps him feel more sufficient.
-Whatever floats your boat, Champ!
 
Seems to me trying to predict anything in this industry is about as futile as trying to herd some of the very feral kittens Mr. Boyd so illustratively mentions in his analysis.
 
I thought this guy was told to grow up by the mods?? What happened now he's back to his childish antics again? This place was almost getting respectable again, guess it's back to the general lee ranting page. Better he just troll this website then the others I guess.

I stay within the rules. I posted predictions made by an airline analyst, and then I get slammed for doing so. Why don't you read Frebird's original post and then think about what you just typed. Have a great day.

Bye Bye--General Lee
 
So General, how are you going to vote when DAL management offers additional pay for scope relief?

That has already happened supposedly. The story I heard was they approached Dalpa with an offer, and it was rejected, and at that point they sold Compass and Mesaba. But if it were up to me, I would vote a big NO for any scope relief. I actually think Dalpa is watching the CAL/UAL deal, and may go after some of the current 76 seaters. The sale of Compass and Mesaba was management's decision, not ours. The pay raise will come anyway thanks to recent profits. Southwest's 737 pay will become the baseline for our 737 payrates, and anything larger will pay more. Delta knows this, and AT pilots getting that pay too will help with that. They just can't cry "we can't pay you that much, look at Airtran, they only make this much......." Well, yes, yes they will NOW.


Bye Bye---General Lee
 
I have to say, that General Lee continuously coming on the regional board and posting articles where he gleefully brags how regional pilots will lose their jobs is sickening. Seek mental help, General. Moderators, please do something about his constant flamebaiting and pot stirring. It serves no purpose. It's not even entertaining.

Sickening? How about just posting information? I posted what a noted analyst stated about his own predictions of 2011. You can believe them or not. I didn't highlight any points, rather I just posted the whole regional section of the predictions.

Bye Bye---General Lee
 
I think it's funny frankly. Obviously he's very impressed with himself, considering himself a cut above the rest (or at least regional pilots). In reality he probably has a delicate ego....

Hey Lee, I should have some of my friends who work for large banks, hedge funds, accounting firms come on and run you down for your stupid career choice. They're making your pay 5 years and don't have to deal with goof-ball airline management antics. (And I'm not talking one of your ACME Atlanta banks that's on the FDIC watch list).

BLAH BLAH BLAH. Great, you have friends that are at the hedge funds. I married into a rich family, and my wife makes more money than most SWA Captains as an Ad Exec here in ATL. Zippy di do..... And, I enjoy my job, get time off and don't have to work 9-5, fly all over the World, and I have time to get on FI and enjoy my passion: Aviation debate. I think I have a great life. You and your friends the bankers don't sound so great. Most people on Wall St don't make it big, only their bosses.


Bye Bye--General Lee
 
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Come on loser boy! You can do it! I imagine you'll have a huge boy-boy love party to celebrate!
 
To single out one particular aircraft type that will be affected by rising fuel prices is the most stupid statement I have heard yet.Last I heard the CRJ burns less fuel than the Embraer.
 
Hey Jenny,
Can you post Boyd's predictions from 2009 & 2010, I'm kind of curious of what was said back then. Much appreciated
Thanks Jennilee

Mike Boyd of the Boyd Group has released his 2008 airline industry predictions. Key among them: $100 oil will drive regional jets (RJs) to the desert graveyards sooner than expected; desperate “low-cost carriers” will need to cut capacity somehow; and “comprehensive network carriers” will need to improve their management of every minute. Boyd’s weekly commentaries, archived here, are always must reading for its boldness and contravention of conventional wisdom. If you recognize his name, it’s because he’s quoted in newspapers all the time. An industry consultant, he openly acknowledges who he’s consulted for when relevant (for example, he’s very bullish on Embraer’s E-Jets, for which his firm consulted). He’s also a spicy writer:
 
Mike Boyd of the Boyd Group has released his 2008 airline industry predictions. Key among them: $100 oil will drive regional jets (RJs) to the desert graveyards sooner than expected; desperate “low-cost carriers” will need to cut capacity somehow; and “comprehensive network carriers” will need to improve their management of every minute. Boyd’s weekly commentaries, archived here, are always must reading for its boldness and contravention of conventional wisdom. If you recognize his name, it’s because he’s quoted in newspapers all the time. An industry consultant, he openly acknowledges who he’s consulted for when relevant (for example, he’s very bullish on Embraer’s E-Jets, for which his firm consulted). He’s also a spicy writer:

All of those things happened in 2008. It probably wasn't tough to predict that, but it did happen. When oil was near $130 a barrel, RJs were starting to be parked, and have been parked ever since. (look at Comair) LCCs stopped their expansion, and the Legacies did get new management---RA took over at Delta and found a merger partner with NWA, Larry Kelhner left CAL, etc. A lot of what he says is obvious, and a lot of it also becomes reality. If you want to read all of his predictions, you can go to his website. Interesting reading.


Bye Bye---General Lee
 


Actually, DL RJs go to LBB from MEM, not mainline jets (thank gawd). You have a better chance than I do of ever having to go to LBB. If you ever do, maybe you and 79%N1 can go find a local disco and dance together. That would be fun to watch. But watch out, it appears he cries at the drop of a hat. Bring tissues.


Bye Bye--General Lee
 
Sickening? How about just posting information? I posted what a noted analyst stated about his own predictions of 2011. You can believe them or not. I didn't highlight any points, rather I just posted the whole regional section of the predictions.

Bye Bye---General Lee

That's baloney and you know it. You don't even need to be talking to the regional guys. You keep posting these articles about how RJs are going away just to stir the pot. Grow up and leave them alone.
 

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