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Some serious miscommunication.
 
DAMN!! Did they have a "beef" with the tug or driver? You'd think that the first collision would have convinced one to stop the A/C, but twice?!?!

Still not as bad as landing a 76 on a taxiway, ...or 75 on a taxiway in Newark.

Pt P
 
Does DAL give payouts to rampees for an on time departure?? Seem the wing walker was in a mighty rush to have the brakes released...
 
ACL65PILOT said:
I am surprised to took this long to make it on here. Old news.
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Apparently not that old as many dl pilots were surprised to see it for the first time today. Interested to find out what happened to learn from it. Good thing no one was hurt.
 
Hilarious.

Oh yeah .... Thank goodness nobody was hurt. Thank goodness it didn't happen to me.

:)
 
LearLove said:
chief pilots office carpet => meets Irish Jig
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Fortunately, that is one of the few situations that ALPA can still be useful to Joe line pilot. Saving his job after he just cost the company $1,000,000.00 in profit for a canceled whale flight with 500 premium paying pax going half way around the world.

Not to mention the damage to the aircraft.
 
so what was supposed to really happen? does the 747 get tugged to the gate normally? was this a revenue flight with pax or was the 747 comming from the hangar with MX guys at the controls?
 
A copyrighted cock-up. What I don't understand is how the airplane hits the tug once, knocks it out of the park then keeps going. Finally, about the third hit they decide to stop. At first it seemed like maybe a hydraulic problem, but that's not the case. Then again, without comms they probably thought it was another zany tug driver with no skills.
 
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Oakum_Boy said:
A copyrighted cock-up. What I don't understand is how the airplane hits the tug once, knocks it out of the park then keeps going. Finally, about the third hit they decide to stop. At first it seemed like maybe a hydraulic problem, but that's not the case..
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Judging from the vid, it looks as though the nut behind the wheel malfunctioned.
 
ACL65PILOT said:
It is a tow in gate.

That video is from a copyrighted gate camera. I doubt it will be up long.
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how did it get on YT anyway?

I noticed it was removed as well. seems like something like thatwould leave a clear digital trial and whoever posted it would get fired, no?
 
I can't quite make out the marshal's hand signals, but as soon as he puts his hands down and walks toward the tug, the captain gives it the gas!
 
ultrarunner said:
I can't quite make out the marshal's hand signals, but as soon as he puts his hands down and walks toward the tug, the captain gives it the gas!
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He didn't "give it the gas". He wrongly for whatever reason released the parking brake. The 80,000 lb tug is supposed to be hooked up to the nose gear at that point and pull it in. Unfortunately the tow bar was not secure yet and the residual thrust (the -400 has A LOT of residual thrust at idle) pushed the unmanned tug like a toy.

Luckily the ramper at the nose gear wasn't killed.
 
Wow, so SOP's are that the person hooking up the tow bar bets his life every time that the parking brake won't get released on purpose or otherwise.... Yikes...

What's the reason to leave 'em running during the hook up?
 
At any airline I have ever been at, we normally stop for a tow in; it is brakes set, and when the ramp hooks up the headset we confirm brakes set and shut down the engines. The hook up and then we release the brakes for our two in to a tight gate. Brakes sent pax go on their way. (APU on)
 
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I will say that rampers should always install a chock on the nose wheel when they bring a tow bar up to the nose wheel or are disconnecting. It is this way at every airline I know of.
 
I'm hoping the rampers gave the, "******************** it, the tug don't work, powers yo' own azzes into the mother********************in' gate, fo shizzle." signal.
 
ACL65PILOT said:
At any airline I have ever been at, we normally stop for a tow in; it is brakes set, and when the ramp hooks up the headset we confirm brakes set and shut down the engines. The hook up and then we release the brakes for our two in to a tight gate. Brakes sent pax go on their way. (APU on)
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I agree. However that doesn't seem to be the case. Obviously the engines were running.

I don't understand the brake release when there was obviously nobody in the tug to inform the Captain to release his brakes over the headset.

Thoughts?
 
GogglesPisano said:
I'm hoping the rampers gave the, "******************** it, the tug don't work, powers yo' own azzes into the mother********************in' gate, fo shizzle." signal.
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I got a good laugh out of this one. A tip of the cap to you Mr Pisano. Also it is quite obvious this video is fake.
 

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