Jerry.... Brad... what ya got?

[JumpersAway]

the point of this whole thread is that you don't come out and say 5000 pilots and follow it up with 4 700's from horizon. The arguement is that you become the boy who cries wolf. when you promise something so grandiose, you had better have something in the works, because trust starts eroding fast...

I agree with what you say, to an extent. All I am saying is to be patient. There wasn't a timeline on this "vision". Even if we merely doubled in size, that would be substantial. This "vision" wasn't going to happen overnight. It has only been a month since it was announced.

 

[wms]

Pinnacle paid $62M and TSA paid $20M. There are no airplanes involved in those deals, DAL still has the leases on them. It's money for the business and certificate, ie flying contracts.

JA wants airplanes and assets along with the flying for them. DAL owns a few of the airplanes ASA operates, but ASA and SKYW have the leases on most of them.

It's not stupid to pass up a deal that does not include tangible assets.

 

[wms]

Has BH ever failed to deliver since coming here? I suspect there are deals happening that have been in the works since before the vision statement came out. It'd be counter-productive to the corporate culture to state such lofty goals if one wasn't sure they could deliver.

 

[Abernathy]

Has BH ever failed to deliver since coming here? I suspect there are deals happening that have been in the works since before the vision statement came out. It'd be counter-productive to the corporate culture to state such lofty goals if one wasn't sure they could deliver.

Have you been coming to work work or living under a rock? Since BH took over we have lost 12 aircraft, found flying for the others that we were going to lose but could not hold on to and furloughed 150+ pilots.

I could look past all that as "the natural cycle of business," but what I can't look past is the atrocious staffing situation, purposely spreading us thin to the point where we work our butts off yet get paid min guarantee for it. The result of which has not only affected our quality of life, but also created a situation in which we are cancelling flights due to low staffing beacuse the lack of foresight his adnimistration has had, blinded by the desire to squeeze as much out of us as possible.

BH is better than others, but he has definitely failed in certain aspects of the business. He just paints a rosy picture. Let's not be naive.

 

[damnflyboy]

SkyWest Inc buys Mesa's assets/flying in fire-sale. Most goes to 00 (40ish planes), who will take Phoenix flying for US Airways. Charlotte US Airways flying goes to EV (30ish planes). Remaining Mesa lift is flown as United. EV and 00 remain separate entities, union/non-union problem solved...for now. Company diversified. Jerry purchases with the money in his change drawer. Brad's mustache puffs in excitement, then smokes a cigarette and flicks it at a fuel truck. Booyah! It's going to happen. The talking vomit bag in the 5B magazine pocket told me so.

 

[sayrejm]

ASA furloughed 136 pilots... but point taken.

 

[Freebrd]

BH is better than others, but he has definitely failed in certain aspects of the business. He just paints a rosy picture. Let's not be naive.

Wholeheartily agree! The way some people at ASA say and feel about him is verrrry scary, verrrry scary indeed!

 

[sniper]

SkyWest Inc buys Mesa's assets/flying in fire-sale. Most goes to 00 (40ish planes), who will take Phoenix flying for US Airways. Charlotte US Airways flying goes to EV (30ish planes). Remaining Mesa lift is flown as United. EV and 00 remain separate entities, union/non-union problem solved...for now. Company diversified. Jerry purchases with the money in his change drawer. Brad's mustache puffs in excitement, then smokes a cigarette and flicks it at a fuel truck. Booyah! It's going to happen. The talking vomit bag in the 5B magazine pocket told me so.

Not a chance unless you integrate Mesa pilots

 

[777forever]

Have you been coming to work work or living under a rock? Since BH took over we have lost 12 aircraft, found flying for the others that we were going to lose but could not hold on to and furloughed 150+ pilots.

I could look past all that as "the natural cycle of business," but what I can't look past is the atrocious staffing situation, purposely spreading us thin to the point where we work our butts off yet get paid min guarantee for it. The result of which has not only affected our quality of life, but also created a situation in which we are cancelling flights due to low staffing beacuse the lack of foresight his adnimistration has had, blinded by the desire to squeeze as much out of us as possible.

BH is better than others, but he has definitely failed in certain aspects of the business. He just paints a rosy picture. Let's not be naive.

Not only are you extremely pessimistic, you're also an absolute moron! They can give your idiotic behind a crystal palace and you'll find something to complain about.

Lost 12 aircraft?!? Can you not count? Since BH arrived, lost 12 ATRs, gained 10 CRJ 900s, 4 CRJ 700s, and 2 CRJ 200s. Last time I checked 10+4+2 equals 16 which is greater than -12!

150+ furloughs? You're either misinformed or you seriously can't count. Last I checked 136 is not 150+

Work our butts off and get paid min guarantee. A few maybe getting min guarantee but most aren't. I've checked the ATL reserve list. Most are crediting in the mid eighties. There was one guy in there that wasn't CMF and he had 99 hrs of credit. Last time I checked 85-99hrs are not 75hrs.

Staffing surely has been an issue. But the disastrous weekend was mainly caused by the 700s not completing 1st class mods on time and those 700 flights being downgraded to the 200. As you can see flights are not cancelling left and right anymore as they were that weekend.

You've only been "living under a rock" if you don't believe this place has made a change for the better. Things could have been much worse for ASA but because of a proactive management we had at least enough growth to get all furloughs back in a very very tough economic environment. This place isn't perfect but its sure as hell better than most, if not the best regional in the industry.

If you're going to complain about stuff around here at least make legitimate complaints based off FACTUAL information rather than skew your numbers for the worse trying to make your opinion stronger. Never once do you have a positive post. All you do is whine like a little girl in the corner. Take the panties and skirt off, put some pants on, and act like a man, JUNIOR!

 

[777forever]

Wholeheartily agree! The way some people at ASA say and feel about him is verrrry scary, verrrry scary indeed!

Oh Please..............