LogBookPro

[glasspilot]

Hey Neil:

How about an iPhone app? Simple, Accurate, Inexpensive, Everyone has it, Do you?




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[206amphib]

If you have a Mac log ten pro is native. It does everything logbook pro does and no need to run windows. Check it out. They have a great iPhone app!

 

[glasspilot]

I use the iPhone app now and export it to LogBook Pro.

It's good but not as good as APDL with LogBook Pro. LogTen has a couple cool features like calculating night and what not. But APDL does a ton more like show an entire month and let you select to display block time total, duty total, RON, day / nite landings, aircraft, ect. Also has loads of duty tracking capability as well as flight time tracking with configurable alerts for both.

Just with LBP would figure out apple apps or LogTen would support PC.


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[mushroom]

I believe the last Logbook Pro newsletter said that there was an iPhone version in beta testing right now that was nearly ready for release. Hopefully it will be soon.

 

[206amphib]

I use the iPhone app now and export it to LogBook Pro.

It's good but not as good as APDL with LogBook Pro. LogTen has a couple cool features like calculating night and what not. But APDL does a ton more like show an entire month and let you select to display block time total, duty total, RON, day / nite landings, aircraft, ect. Also has loads of duty tracking capability as well as flight time tracking with configurable alerts for both.

Just with LBP would figure out apple apps or LogTen would support PC.


gp

Actually log ten does all that too. It's just that their version of the analyzer is built a little differently. The user builds smart queries which are constantly adjusted anytime you input new data. They are always visible along the side of the window much like playlists in iTunes.

I'm not saying thatbone is better then the other, I've just used both extensively and like the log ten a little better. It took me a while to get it figured out but once I did it was better for me. In fact I actually downloaded it once and went back to lbp but the hassle of running windows made me try a little harder and it was well worth it.

Both good programs tho!

 

[fly4funcrj]

Do you know if there is a way to import lbp into logten?

 

[206amphib]

Do you know if there is a way to import lbp into logten?

There is! That was one thing that I had to take a little time to get through, but the folks at coradine were very helpful! As I recall, there were a few fields that didn't match up that I had to change around. The thing is that ltp offers many more fields to input data into. For example, NVG time, cat launches, nav time, pretty much any conceivable outlet that you'd need to log time they have. Of course, you can customize them to see what you do and don't want to see.

But to answer the question, yes. It is quite simple to import. You should download the trial and check it out. I think the only thing it doesn't let you do is save the logbook, but you can put data in and play with the interface. Feel free to PM me if you do and have any questions...

 

[fly4funcrj]

Thanks. The fact that logbook pro refuses to make it available on the mac is my reason to look elsewhere. Will take a look and pm if I have any questions..

 

[glasspilot]

OMG!!!

LogBook Pro has an app in the app store for iPhone / iPad ( although iPad app isn't up yet or NC software expects an iPhone app to suffice). Either way it's GREAT news!

It was like watching a race between LogTen and LogBook Pro to see who would cross develop first and it seems LogBook Pro won.

I haven't got it yet but I will when I get home in a couple days and see how it looks. Hopefully the full iPad app will be out by then.

I feel like one of those people in the windows 7 commercials saying windows 7 was their idea. An iPhone app for LogBook Pro was my idea.

(hey Neil, wanna throw me a "review copy"?)


P.S. APDL on the iPhone would be AWESOME!!!!



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[gunfyter]

Windows 7 Was NOT My Idea.

sudo apt-get install Awesomeness

(translation= get windows off your machine and install Ubuntu Linux) FAQ's - Wubi - Ubuntu Installer for Windows

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[206amphib]

There is no reason for ltp to cross install. You'll notice that no Mac users are dying to get something that only works on windows when there is something that already does it, and IMHO, does it better anyway for the platform. Not to mention the fact that an iPhone app doesn't really eben help Mac users cause they still have to go through windows.

For anyone who is skeptical, I'd say go to an apple store and tell them to show you why. I know many who have switched not only logbook programs but from windows to Mac and many of those were diehard windows guys. They've never looked back.

That's just what I've seen, and just my opinion.

 

[ozpilot]

Windows 7 Was NOT My Idea.

sudo apt-get install Awesomeness

(translation= get windows off your machine and install Ubuntu Linux) FAQ's - Wubi - Ubuntu Installer for Windows

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Agreed! But does Log Book Pro or any other log book program run on Ubuntu?

 

[gunfyter]

it is said LogBook Pro runs under WINE. I have not checked it.

I have a WUBI dual-boot with XP.

 

[gringo]

I got the impression the iPhone app wasn't a standalone "Mac compatible" program.

I got the distinct impression that it's meant to be used with the Windows software.

Either way, as a "born again" Mac enthusiast, I can also attest to LogTen Pro's abilities.

To be completely honest, comparing apples to apples, they're pretty much the same program.

Pretty simple really; if you use a Mac, use L10Pro. If you use Windows, use LBP. You can't lose either way.

Importing from Logbook Pro to Log Ten Pro was a little confusing at first, but I figured it out pretty quickly. I exported to a CSV file, opened up in Excel, cleaned it up a bit (for instance, I changed most of the 3-letter ID's to the ICAO 4-letter ID- I had airports showing up in China and elsewhere that I KNEW I didn't fly to (at least not in a C172!) and I couldn't figure it out until I realized that the program was referencing the three-letter APC code, which may or may not be the same as the 3-letter code you put into your logbook for the grass strip down the street.

Although it was a little tedious to clean up my logbook, I found myself enjoying it, as I found myself actually remembering many obscure details of flights long since forgotten. Dodging thunderstorms on my commercial cross-country. That cool grass strip where I watched the DEA practice their stuff. Last flight before my last furlough... sure brought back memories!

I DO like that when I put in my OUT and IN times, LogTen Pro automatically calculates day/night.

I DO like the feature where you can export your trips to Google Earth and see where you went. LBP also has an add-on like this, but it costs $30, so with the add-on, both programs cost about the same.

I only fly 1-2 legs a day, maybe 3 if I'm really unlucky, so having the iPhone app didn't make much sense for me. But if I was flying an RJ or a 737 with 3-4-5 legs a day, then I'd totally get it.

 

[DAS at 10/250]

My information is a little dated but I thought LogTen Pro was a horrible program. I switched from LogBook Pro to LogTen when I went Mac in 2006. LogBook pro had built in filters but LogTen requires you to build your own. I tried for two weeks to figure out how to get the damn thing to tell me how much of anything that I had. Having to write code is not my idea of a user friendly program. I never figured out how to get "if multiengine=>0.1 show" to work. It was a completely useless program and I actually went back and installed LogBook Pro on my wife's PC (she's Mac now) in order to filter my times for the NetJets application.

As I said, my info is a little dated as I refused to pay the $60 "upgrade" fee for the new version a few years back. I thought my original $80 was a complete loss and wasn't going to gamble anymore money. Maybe things are better now, but if not, I'd stay the hell away from LogTen Pro unless you're more then a casual user.

 

[gunfyter]

As i said before ... LogbookPro is said to run under WINE so it should work on a Mac. I know it runs under Ubuntu... with WINE.

http://www.winehq.org/about/

 

[206amphib]

My information is a little dated but I thought LogTen Pro was a horrible program. I switched from LogBook Pro to LogTen when I went Mac in 2006. LogBook pro had built in filters but LogTen requires you to build your own. I tried for two weeks to figure out how to get the damn thing to tell me how much of anything that I had. Having to write code is not my idea of a user friendly program. I never figured out how to get "if multiengine=>0.1 show" to work. It was a completely useless program and I actually went back and installed LogBook Pro on my wife's PC (she's Mac now) in order to filter my times for the NetJets application.

As I said, my info is a little dated as I refused to pay the $60 "upgrade" fee for the new version a few years back. I thought my original $80 was a complete loss and wasn't going to gamble anymore money. Maybe things are better now, but if not, I'd stay the hell away from LogTen Pro unless you're more then a casual user.

With version 5 it has changed a lot, for the better! You still have to use the same filters and build them yourself, but once you figure it out it's smooth sailing. I found that the problem I was having was due to the fact that it is very precise, as in when building filters, you have to use the terms the program uses, letter for letter, or it doesn't recognize....

I'm a full supporter!

 

[AvroJockey]

I never figured out how to get "if multiengine=>0.1 show" to work. It was a completely useless program and I actually went back and installed LogBook Pro on my wife's PC (she's Mac now) in order to filter my times for the NetJets application.

I've been a LogTen Pro user since version 2, and I've never remember having to hand-code any filters.

 

[atpcliff]

Hi!

Everything I have heard and seen on LogTenPro is good.

Macs are better, and more expensive. If/when I get into a position where I feel financially stable, I will switch bac to Mac.

cliff
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