Avoid AirTran!!

[livintheredream]

Avoid AirTran if you are going some where. Again they are victims of themselves. They cancelled over 40 flights yesterday due to lack of crews. They are trying to blame the pilots, of course, but the reality is the inept scheduling dept and the worse crew planning dept in the industry has struck again. Flights that are going but downgraded to a 717 will be oversold by 20 +. They haven’t taken delivery of a AC on over a year and they still cant figure out the staffing level .Maybe they should furlough. They are trying to recovery from themselves by asking for favors from guys on there days off. 6 years of negotiations and you want a favor! HA . Its your bed, lay in it.

 

[Taco Rocket]

Competing with Doug Parker for the "Mesa Grande" award?

 

[Mach88]

Livin,
Thanks for the warning. And guys that have a job shoukd consider that, but for those of us out of work, a crappy job is better than no job.

 

[Yuppyguppy]

be very careful what you wish for mach88...

 

[Headfake14]

maybe he meant...avoid...for commuting? Not employment...

 

[400ADude]

Thanks for the update. I won't fly them nor will I put my family on them. Same old Value Jet just a different name.

 

[Ty Webb]

Thanks for the update. I won't fly them nor will I put my family on them.

That's OK . . . . We don't allow farm animals on board anyway.

If you actually got some woman to marry you, she must be a real prize :laugh::laugh::laugh: We only allow one seat-belt extender per person, better call Greyhound.

 

[400ADude]

That's OK . . . . We don't allow farm animals on board anyway.

If you actually got some woman to marry you, she must be a real prize :laugh::laugh::laugh: We only allow one seat-belt extender per person, better call Greyhound.

Greyhound imagine that coming from a Value Jet guy! Is it true they recruited you from the produce section at Walmart?

BTW, what are your hiring minimums these days?? Do they look favorable at individuals that have worked at the Deli section. Or is the Deli section putting you in the over qualified category.

Have a good day Critter!

 

[Miami Freight]

My GF drove for hours to MCO the other day, arrived 2 hours early but the flight had left. They said they sent an email and a voice mail letting her know about the change in departure time but she never got them. Who else changes departure times within a couple days of a scheduled flight like that? She argued forever to get a voucher for her next flight. I guess she'll try them one for time. In the meantime she got to drive 350 miles each way to her destination.

 

[T3700]

Scheduling and planning at AirTran are grossly incompetent. Bob Fornaro needs to to get his hands dirty and find out what is actually going on in his company. Depending on powerpoint presentations from the very people who are responsible for the problems will never reveal the depth of mismanagement at AAI. I sometimes wonder whether the company will be around long enough for a strike to even matter.

 

[UALRATT]

Avoid AirTran if you are going some where. Again they are victims of themselves. They cancelled over 40 flights yesterday due to lack of crews. They are trying to blame the pilots, of course, but the reality is the inept scheduling dept and the worse crew planning dept in the industry has struck again. Flights that are going but downgraded to a 717 will be oversold by 20 +. They haven’t taken delivery of a AC on over a year and they still cant figure out the staffing level .Maybe they should furlough. They are trying to recovery from themselves by asking for favors from guys on there days off. 6 years of negotiations and you want a favor! HA . Its your bed, lay in it.

And why should they furlough??

 

[ParrotheadGTI]

don't forget Bob Fornaro got a raise article going around the crew lounge said $2MM

 

[Moon-dog]

Thanks for the update. I won't fly them nor will I put my family on them. Same old Value Jet just a different name.

Another FI dipsh1t, how long is the list?

:laugh:

 

[Ty Webb]

BTW, what are your hiring minimums these days?? Do they look favorable at individuals that have worked at the Deli section. Or is the Deli section putting you in the over qualified category. Have a good day Critter!

Hmmm. I don't know, I got hired about 8 years ago. Why don't you ask one of the former Delta, USAirways, UAL, NWA, AMR or TWA guys we hired? Maybe they could help you. I know you're looking for fruit, but they could probably give you a knuckle sandwich.:laugh::laugh::laugh:

 

[Palmtree Pilot]

That's OK . . . . We don't allow farm animals on board anyway.

If you actually got some woman to marry you, she must be a real prize :laugh::laugh::laugh: We only allow one seat-belt extender per person, better call Greyhound.

WOW... Really?

 

[no1pilot2000]

Livin,

Be thankful you have a flying job, especially in this recession. Remeber, you chose to apply and fly for Air Tran. That advice goes for anyone who has a job in our current economic environment. If you dislike working for AirTran, quit and apply to Southwest when they start hiring first officers again. There are plenty of pilot applicants who would like to kick your butt out of an AirTran cockpit and put theirs' in it.

Have a nice day!

 

[Lear70]

Moderator hat on:

Thread reviewed. Although the farm animals comment was "colorful", it's within the FlightInfo Terms of Service. I will give a warning to KEEP it within the TOS, that goes to EVERYONE.

/mod

 

[FIREMAN]

Avoid AirTran if you are going some where. Again they are victims of themselves. They cancelled over 40 flights yesterday due to lack of crews. They are trying to blame the pilots, of course, but the reality is the inept scheduling dept and the worse crew planning dept in the industry has struck again. Flights that are going but downgraded to a 717 will be oversold by 20 +. They haven’t taken delivery of a AC on over a year and they still cant figure out the staffing level .Maybe they should furlough. They are trying to recovery from themselves by asking for favors from guys on there days off. 6 years of negotiations and you want a favor! HA . Its your bed, lay in it.

We took 2 737s last year.

 

[Ty Webb]

Moderator hat on:

Thread reviewed. Although the farm animals comment was "colorful", it's within the FlightInfo Terms of Service.
/mod

"I didn't think it was that b-a-a-a-a-d", he said, sheepishly.

 

[Lear70]

*snicker*

 

[BigEasy]

Livin,
Thanks for the warning. And guys that have a job shoukd consider that, but for those of us out of work, a crappy job is better than no job.

You are very correct with that statement. I was soon to be out of work and hired on at Airtran in 2005. It did not take long for me to see what the company was about, luckily I moved on to a place that is the polar opposite of Airtran. Nice group of pilots, just a different place to work.

 

[BigEasy]

Livin,

Be thankful you have a flying job, especially in this recession. Remeber, you chose to apply and fly for Air Tran. That advice goes for anyone who has a job in our current economic environment. If you dislike working for AirTran, quit and apply to Southwest when they start hiring first officers again. There are plenty of pilot applicants who would like to kick your butt out of an AirTran cockpit and put theirs' in it.

Have a nice day!

I did and it worked out! Hows coach?

 

[Gas Man]

Does valuejet have a flow through program to Ameriflight?

 

[maxblast72]

Does valuejet have a flow through program to Ameriflight?

Its Valujet and I don't think too many of Airtran's senior captains making around $160K and putting $17K into their B-funds will be flowing to Ameriflight. I wish they would so I could end my 3 year reserve stint.

 

[Captain Jeff]

Livin,

Be thankful you have a flying job, especially in this recession. Remeber, you chose to apply and fly for Air Tran. That advice goes for anyone who has a job in our current economic environment. If you dislike working for AirTran, quit and apply to Southwest when they start hiring first officers again. There are plenty of pilot applicants who would like to kick your butt out of an AirTran cockpit and put theirs' in it.

Have a nice day!

ah... a future $12,000 a year pilot........

 

[waveflyer]

Livin,

Be thankful you have a flying job, especially in this recession. Remeber, you chose to apply and fly for Air Tran. That advice goes for anyone who has a job in our current economic environment. If you dislike working for AirTran, quit and apply to Southwest when they start hiring first officers again. There are plenty of pilot applicants who would like to kick your butt out of an AirTran cockpit and put theirs' in it.

Have a nice day!

Woe is me.

Furloughs, bankruptcies, layoffs... How new do you have to be to not know these are part of an airline career?

From day 1 of flt school- you should be socking cash away for these scenarios and educating yourself in some sort of plan B field- if you're in such dire straights that you'd be inspired to write this kind of simplistic kool aid, you've been doing some things wrong for a while...

That said, I am very grateful for my life, god given brains and abilities, and for being both lucky and good enough to pass the interviews I have.

But here's a SECRET- if you want to change your lot in life- maybe you ought to focus more on what you should be grateful for, than what you think others ought to be

 

[scarlet]

Yeah Valujet has one crash, lets look at DL,CAL,AA (LIT alone),UA, Lord knows USAIR. Then everyone should stay home. How many did DL kill in Dallas, USAir in their 737 crahsES or CAL in Denver.

If you don't like VJ, don't come ask for a jumpseat on us, like ALOT of you do !!!

 

[400ADude]

Is it true the Amerijet guys will be getting priority for interviews?

 

[Kharma Police]

Is it true the Amerijet guys will be getting priority for interviews?

No, but don't worry, I'm sure we could work something out when Southwest furloughs. You guys would be current on the 737, all we would have to do is teach you about autobrakes, VNAV and autothrottles, should be a snap! All you need is a passport since we fly out of the country. You would have to pay for a passport though, but I'm sure you wouldn't mind since you are used to paying for things, like your job.

 

[waveflyer]

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