Man Tackled on Pinnacle Flight: LAN-DTW

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http://www.upnorthlive.com/news/news_story.aspx?id=416414

 

[Midnight Flyer]

I love stories like this! The bleeding hearts are thinking somehow his rights have been violated and there was unnecessary use of force, yadda yadda.

I'm itchin' to be on a flight like this so I have my turn to tackle and restrain some idiot who thinks he doesn't have to follow the rules. How dare him disrupt everyone's travel and compromise safety. He'd definitely receive a few unexpected jabs and a broken jaw to boot.

 

[Salukipilot4590]

You can tackle someone on an RJ?

Have Americans suddenly become thinner or something?

 

[Fernando]

I love stories like this! The bleeding hearts are thinking somehow his rights have been violated and there was unnecessary use of force, yadda yadda.

I'm itchin' to be on a flight like this so I have my turn to tackle and restrain some idiot who thinks he doesn't have to follow the rules. How dare him disrupt everyone's travel and compromise safety. He'd definitely receive a few unexpected jabs and a broken jaw to boot.

Hi, whats up with your avatar pic? whats the storie?

 

[DGdaPilot]

Hi, whats up with your avatar pic? whats the storie?

It's called a box office.

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

I love stories like this! The bleeding hearts are thinking somehow his rights have been violated and there was unnecessary use of force, yadda yadda.

I'm itchin' to be on a flight like this so I have my turn to tackle and restrain some idiot who thinks he doesn't have to follow the rules. How dare him disrupt everyone's travel and compromise safety. He'd definitely receive a few unexpected jabs and a broken jaw to boot.

Pax on a SWA flight killed a pax...... not sure they meant to kill him... would you take it to death?

 

[WayBack]

Pax on a SWA flight killed a pax...... not sure they meant to kill him... would you take it to death?

If he won't, I will!
Nothing short of eye gouging, hair pulling, biting, wet willies, swirly, wedgies, camel clutch, flying suplex, chicken wing, scissor kicks, tooth extraction, flogging, foot roasting, branding, kneecapping, rat torture, scalping, tar and feathering.....you know, just the basics.


But then I'm sure you're all for protecting their civil rights.

 

[gringo]

Pax on a SWA flight killed a pax...... not sure they meant to kill him... would you take it to death?

Here's what happened.

From Tribune News Services
September 17, 2000
SALT LAKE CITY, UTAH -- A teenage passenger who became combative on a Southwest Airlines flight was killed by the passengers who restrained him, not by a heart attack as authorities first believed, an autopsy concluded.

The U.S. Attorney's Office described Jonathan Burton's Aug. 11 suffocation as an act of self-defense by passengers and said it would not file criminal charges.

Burton, 19, of Las Vegas, hit other passengers and pounded on the locked cockpit door. Up to eight passengers subdued him. Burton died after being removed from the plane in Salt Lake City.

Family lawyer Kent Spence said he "was strangled, beaten and kicked. We'd like to know how this could have happened."



I'd say the other passengers did the right thing. Apparently, so did the US. Attorney's Office, too.

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

Not really..... just because criminal charges were not filed doesn't mean the situation could have been handled differently and/or better. Then again.. I wasn't there.. and I wasn't on the PCL flight..... Not sure what the bravado chest bumping chatter is all about.

 

[Whataburger]

If he won't, I will!
Nothing short of eye gouging, hair pulling, biting, wet willies, swirly, wedgies, camel clutch, flying suplex, chicken wing, scissor kicks, tooth extraction, flogging, foot roasting, branding, kneecapping, rat torture, scalping, tar and feathering.....you know, just the basics.


But then I'm sure you're all for protecting their civil rights.

I would start with an "Iron Claw."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJ0wMKch-50

 

[samballs]

Pax on a SWA flight killed a pax...... not sure they meant to kill him... would you take it to death?

Loser, Why do you have to ask questions like that

 

[Whataburger]

Loser, Why do you have to ask questions like that

Its' "looser."

 

[Midnight Flyer]

Pax on a SWA flight killed a pax...... not sure they meant to kill him... would you take it to death?

Definitely yes.

I would use a degree of force necessary to restrain the person. If he is still struggling to get to the cockpit, then I would have no problem with using lethal force to stop the guy.
Taking one scumbags life in exchange for saving the lives of everyone on board and any innocent bystanders is a no brainer.

Air travel isn't the same as it once was since people are using airplanes to fly into buildings. The traveling public has had enough. Passengers are willing to fight to protect the aircraft they're in.
Rez, you and your liberal friends are an embarrassment to this Country.

 

[wmuflyguy]

I love stories like this! The bleeding hearts are thinking somehow his rights have been violated and there was unnecessary use of force, yadda yadda.

I'm itchin' to be on a flight like this so I have my turn to tackle and restrain some idiot who thinks he doesn't have to follow the rules. How dare him disrupt everyone's travel and compromise safety. He'd definitely receive a few unexpected jabs and a broken jaw to boot.

You're 'itching' for a flight like this?!? You have a problem, I hope to never be on a flight like this. That being said, doesn't mean I wouldn't fight to subdue the offending person, but I hope this type of thing never happens on any flight.

Why wish that something bad will happen, just so you can be a hero?

 

[WayBack]

I would start with an "Iron Claw."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJ0wMKch-50

Some serious icons in that ring. Sergeant Slaugter!? He was the father I never had.

 

[samballs]

Definitely yes.

I would use a degree of force necessary to restrain the person. If he is still struggling to get to the cockpit, then I would have no problem with using lethal force to stop the guy.
Taking one scumbags life in exchange for saving the lives of everyone on board and any innocent bystanders is a no brainer.

Air travel isn't the same as it once was since people are using airplanes to fly into buildings. The traveling public has had enough. Passengers are willing to fight to protect the aircraft they're in.
Rez, you and your liberal friends are an embarrassment to this Country.

Remember REZ is the biggest ALPA cheerleader there is, he would negotiate with the guy, when that fails, he would ignore him, then when the guy finally threatens to crash the plane, REZ would ask all pax on the plane to give all their money to the guy so we could live to fight another day. Then he would send a memo to all papers saying ALPA saved the day. Maybe even put a letter in the industry leading union magazine

 

[WayBack]

Remember REZ is the biggest ALPA cheerleader there is, he would negotiate with the guy, when that fails, he would ignore him, then when the guy finally threatens to crash the plane, REZ would ask all pax on the plane to give all their money to the guy so we could live to fight another day. Then he would send a memo to all papers saying ALPA saved the day. Maybe even put a letter in the industry leading union magazine

That's some funny stuff. But let's not forget, in that letter he will also cry that he was the victim.

 

[Midnight Flyer]

You're 'itching' for a flight like this?

Deninately

Why wish that something bad will happen, just so you can be a hero?

Ha ha, I love it how you liberals twist everything around. I do not wish for another attempted aircraft takeover or terrorist act. But realistically, at some point, it's going to happen again. So when it does, I'm stepping up by saying I hope I'm a passenger on the flight. Trust me, they won't make it past my row.
I can only imagine how you and Rez would attempt to handle a terrorist on your plane. Maybe give him a talking-to followed by a group hug. God forbid you "violate" any of his rights.

 

[Whataburger]

Some serious icons in that ring. Sergeant Slaugter!? He was the father I never had.

Think way back to 1982. Every GI Joe came with a Sergeant Slaughter coupon. For every 5 you coupons you collected, you got a free Sergeant Slaughter. You sent the 5 in with a nominal S&H fee. When mine came in the mail, for 5 minutes I was the coolest kid on my block.

He could have been my father. I was conceived in the Sportatorium.

Or maybe it was the Junkyard Dog, the Ultimate Warrior, Hacksaw Jim Duggan, Randy Savage, or Jake "The Snake" Roberts. Or even the Iron Sheik.

 

[tomgoodman]

Tag Team?

I would start with an "Iron Claw."

Recurrent training should also include the "figure 4 leg-lock", the "one-armed back breaker", the "sleeper hold", and the "pile-driver". These skills could come in handy on layovers too.

 

[wmuflyguy]

Ha ha, I love it how you liberals twist everything around.

Your statement was pretty cut and dried...not twisting needed. Way to act like you got victimized though.

I'm itchin' to be on a flight like this so I have my turn to tackle and restrain some idiot who thinks he doesn't have to follow the rules. How dare him disrupt everyone's travel and compromise safety. He'd definitely receive a few unexpected jabs and a broken jaw to boot.

You are just a glory hounding, tough typing, internet tough guy. gfy

 

[Amish RakeFight]

This article was very vague. It seems the FA asked several men to move up front. What did he actually do besides ask to be seated closer to the cockpit. How does this evolve into him being tackled.

 

[UAL-GSO]

Were definitely not getting the whole story from that article. I'm sure (I hope) they had a good reason to restrain him.

IMO if you find yourself "in it", you damn well better do whatever it takes to stop the threat. If you are really worried about the liability and morality of it, you better just sit down quietly and hope someone else will defend your aircraft.

 

[WayBack]

Or maybe it was the Junkyard Dog, the Ultimate Warrior, Hacksaw Jim Duggan, Randy Savage, or Jake "The Snake" Roberts. Or even the Iron Sheik.

Or George "The Animal" Steele, King Kong Bundy or Ivan Putski. When wrestling was real!

 

[WayBack]

You are just a glory hounding, tough typing, internet tough guy. gfy

I have to agree. He reminds of this guy I know who would brag about how much of an awesome kick boxer he was. Turns out the only kick boxing he's ever done was an aerobics class with a bunch of girls. It wasn't even Tae-Bo.

He claims no one would make it past his row. I have a feeling who ever wanted to, would get past his row and give him a wedgie.

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

There was an article on this board a few years ago about a Marine in ATL I believe, that was mugged by a group of kids (19-ish). He killed one or two, in defense.

The mob mentality on FI was bravado, Internet chest thumping, binary fist bumping, end zone victory dances, self induced aggrandizement and empowerment.... The general attitude was how the forum tough guys would do the same thing and kick some ass..... all talk....

The ex marine who killed the kid muggers felt terrible about the fact that he took a life. He didn't feel empowered, bravado or the desire to high five....


It seems like the whole story isn't here... as well...

In addition, some the pilots who give the most detailed V1 cut and other emergency briefings freeze up like shy little boys at the family reunion. The only time to prove ones self is at game time.... so until that happens lets all assume that we will all do what is needed and expected.

So who knows how you'll react when it comes time to act. But if being a tough guy on the forum feels good... then empower yourselves...

 

[WayBack]

In addition, some the pilots who give the most detailed V1 cut and other emergency briefings freeze up like shy little boys at the family reunion. The only time to prove ones self is at game time.... so until that happens lets all assume that we will all do what is needed and expected.

So who knows how you'll react when it comes time to act. But if being a tough guy on the forum feels good... then empower yourselves...

Wow, great speech Rez, I feel like I should be slapping a sign that reads "Play like a Champion" and running out of the tunnel on Saturday afternoons in South Bend. It gave me goosebumps!
Wait, nevermind.....it's just gas. You are one to talk about internet tough guys. Sure, you might not talk about physically beating people, but we have all seen your little temper tantrums when someone has an argument against ALPO. You become an tough guy by insulting their intelligence, among your other childish, immature behavior.

 

[Midnight Flyer]

I have to agree. He reminds of this guy I know who would brag about how much of an awesome kick boxer he was. Turns out the only kick boxing he's ever done was an aerobics class with a bunch of girls. It wasn't even Tae-Bo.

He claims no one would make it past his row. I have a feeling who ever wanted to, would get past his row and give him a wedgie.

I'm not a kick boxer, tough guy or whatever. I am not a violent person. However, if I'm jumpseating in the cabin or an airliner, I am considered a crewmember. Any Captain would expect me to assist in defending the aircraft and stop a terrorist from entering the cockpit. You can think what you want, but I'm stopping any terrorist from running past my row.

You are just a glory hounding, tough typing, internet tough guy. gfy

Maybe one day you can grow a backbone, too!!

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

I'm not a kick boxer, tough guy or whatever. I am not a violent person. However, if I'm jumpseating in the cabin or an airliner, I am considered a crewmember. Any Captain would expect me to assist in defending the aircraft and stop a terrorist from entering the cockpit. You can think what you want, but I'm stopping any terrorist from running past my row.


Maybe one day you can grow a backbone, too!!

So you are a pilot... you are going to risk harming yourself and not being able to fly the jet if needed so you can do what most of the pax will do as well?

Is this the format were we determine who has backbone?

 

[WayBack]

So you are a pilot... you are going to risk harming yourself and not being able to fly the jet if needed so you can do what most of the pax will do as well?

Is this the format were we determine who has backbone?

Why would he be flying "the jet" when he's sitting in the cabin? Can't you read at a 5th grade level yet?