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biplanepilot

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Just trying to gather some info for the company. How many hours a year are you corporate jet guys flying? And if you have the info, about how many overnights are you away from home a month on average?

If any one has any official surveys I'll take that too. I do have a 2008 Stanton Group survey to work with, but some up to date real life data would be useful.

Thanks in advance.
 
2009 - 150hrs / approx 40 overnights
2008 - 90hrs / approx 40 overnights
2007 - 155hrs / approx 50 overnights

2009 was a 3 pilot 1 airplane gig....prior to that was a Fortune XX job with many pilots and planes...average line pilot flew approx 225hrs/yr and 6-8 overnights a month.

Most corporate "line" pilots I know fly approx 250hrs a year. Overnights really depend on equipment....a Citation may do many day trips, a GV/Global many overnights (of course, exceptions here)
 
2007-510
2008-275
2009-0
2010-0

Ive given on on flying for a living. Sick and tired of losing my job, or not knowing if Im gonna have a job next week. Horrible way to go thru life.
 
2009 - 175
2008 - 212
2007 - 300

About 65 overnights / year. Fortune XX G-whiz job.
 
200 hours a year average. 5 overnights a month

Part 91 single airplane, 2 pilot operation.

Citation 650

I actually flew 600 hours last year though...damn...lots of stuff going on the side though.
 
07- 250 hrs jet 100 hrs piston
08- 220 hrs jet 50 hrs piston
09- 175 hrs jet 30 hrs piston

91 gig 2 planes 2 pilots
The only thing saving 91 ops is the owners love of airplanes and the fact that used airplane market is SO BAD that they would rather keep flying the airplane then sell at 50% loss.
 
You got it all wrong, don't go by hours flown, go by days worked (include R.O.N. days whether flying or not). That's a much better guage of quality-of-life in corporate flying.
 
Coool Hand Luke said:
You got it all wrong, don't go by hours flown, go by days worked (include R.O.N. days whether flying or not). That's a much better guage of quality-of-life in corporate flying.
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A-Fu**ing-Men!!!!

Part 91, 2 planes, 3 pilots

2008- I flew 122 days
2008- Jet flew 266 hrs
2008- Tprop flew 117 hrs

2009- I flew 105 days
2009- Jet flew 262 hrs
2009- Tprop flew 135 hrs
 
Coool Hand Luke said:
You got it all wrong, don't go by hours flown, go by days worked (include R.O.N. days whether flying or not). That's a much better guage of quality-of-life in corporate flying.
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You are absolutely right. I should have worded my question the other way round, asking first for days worked and RON's, followed by hours flown as supplemental information.

Either way please keep the information coming in folks. This is good ammunition for me although being that it's totally informal is going to be a problem. The 2008 Stanton Group survey (which is hard factual published data) quotes the following:

average days flown per month 13.8 days (=166 days/year)
average nights away per month is 10.5 (=120 nights/year)
average block time per pilot per month is 40.2 hrs (=482 hrs/year)

We are working approx 187 days, 83 rons's and 400 hrs per year.

Compared to the Stanton report we're not that far out of line. But compared to what we hear chatting at FOB's and what you folks are saying here we're working and flying more.
 
gret said:
Isn't it just nice to have a job?
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Dude, what part of :D did you not get? I was trying to be funny and it would seem that I failed in your eyes. Even my buddy, who was out of work for 8 months before getting back into a flying seat, or my brother, who never got back into the cockpit after his airline disappeared (8 years and counting), would get that joke and laugh. I'm sorry you or someone you know lost their job; its really a shame that you've lost your sense of humor.
 
Oh OK I get it! It was funny. Sorry. Everything is OK out there. We are all doing just great.
 
This info is useful for the OP, but I would take it with a grain of salt. Most of the answers are coming from guys with good jobs. They don't fly much and are home most nights. You're not hearing from the guys working their butts off because nobody wants to brag about working hard. Look at the W-2 thread in the majors section. All the SWA guys are chiming in, but you're not hearing a whole lot from the rest of the airline guys. The info is accurate, but it's only telling you part of the story. It probably isn't indicative of the average. My guess it's the same with this thread.
 
""You got it all wrong, don't go by hours flown, go by days worked (include R.O.N. days whether flying or not). That's a much better guage of quality-of-life in corporate flying. ""

exactly,
and caveman has it right too.... i have one of the better corporate jobs.
part 91 ....... family............. G450........... 2 pilots 1 mechanic 1 flight attendant

average last 2-3 years 150 hrs. but we do sit in Hotels alot average 90 to 100 nights plus training .........
 
Caveman said:
This info is useful for the OP, but I would take it with a grain of salt. Most of the answers are coming from guys with good jobs. They don't fly much and are home most nights. You're not hearing from the guys working their butts off because nobody wants to brag about working hard. Look at the W-2 thread in the majors section. All the SWA guys are chiming in, but you're not hearing a whole lot from the rest of the airline guys. The info is accurate, but it's only telling you part of the story. It probably isn't indicative of the average. My guess it's the same with this thread.
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Well, maybe not....I consider my job pretty average.

Most halfway decent single airplane jobs have 3 pilots. Most also fly around 300 hours/yr. Nights away vary greatly of course by job..and yes, thats what really counts.

Now, having 2 pilots and flying Joe Rich Jerkoff to Palm Beach Thurs-Mon every single weekend means about 100hrs a year of flying and WAY TOO MANY hotel nights. Excessive nights away kill QOL for the majority of us.

So long as you are not on charter/management the hours here really are pretty normal for Pt91 gigs.

Add in vacation (3-4 weeks/yr) training, mx, etc...its easy to be home quite a bit....and thats fine!
 
Iam amazed by all the bragging of how little you fly. Ive been laid off 3 times since 2003 asresult of not enough work. I rather be bragging the 800 hrs my company NEEDED my service.
 
Hours- 511 split between a G450 and a CJ3
Nights-71- thanks to marriott double nights alot more!!!!

Fortune 500 company 2 airplanes 6 pilots.

CJ3- about 500 hours
450- about 400 hours

Flew less last year. this year what the busiest year out of the 4 with the company.
 
Many thanks and keep the replies coming in. I do have a new question for you though, prompted by a couple of your replies: what is your airplane to pilot ratio. For example my company has 3 jets (all different types) and 5 pilots. We are all typed and current in at least 2 of the 3.
 
100 c.i. said:
Iam amazed by all the bragging of how little you fly. Ive been laid off 3 times since 2003 asresult of not enough work. I rather be bragging the 800 hrs my company NEEDED my service.
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Not bragging, just stating facts. But I am not complaint either. It is what it is.
 

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