USAirways Inaugural Nonstop CLT - PHNL isn't so Non-Stop

[Turtle21]

So Mr. experience what would you have done?? Run out of fuel over the ocean? Sounds like they made a smart decision to me to stop for fuel. Maybe your company is different, but I don't have any say on what equipment fly's what route at my company.

US has been notorious for hounding the pilots to cut fuel loads really close..

 

[Turtle21]

So, um,

The Captain in your avatar appears to be senior to me on the NIC.:laugh:

If he would just wait his turn the world will be his oyster...

 

[Captzaahlie]

"Has nothing to do with East or West..."

Well, Sandhawk, you sure brought that fight to the table with the "eastie crewed 767" flame.

That's the first thing I caught too.... (the dig).

If the high schoolers ( E &W cry babies) need to see monkeys throwing poop at one another they should go to the zoo and learn from the professionals in cages.
Maybe USAPA can sponsor this field trip? They seem to waste money on everything else!

 

[Captzaahlie]

So I was right - another cryin Westie?
And by the way - although I am still working and I am probably senior to Sandhawk on the nic - I sincerely wish no one was on furlough - since I have had friends and family on that list like Sandhawk. And although we can throw barbs at each other - in reality we should be throwing the barbs at our leaders for not negotiating a fair contract that we can all vote on.

Metrojet
QUOTE]

That is a great post raht chair!

Dude.....

You sobered up and I completely agree!

The Hatfield and Mckoy bull******************** is not helping

those of us on furlough one F#($%king bit!
:uzi:

 

[Bringupthebird]

Maybe if they didn't run the APU all the way from CLT, they might have enough fuel. Maybe the Pacific is too much for the mighty men of Piedagheny.

 

[BlackPilot628]

It will be intersting to see how the PHL-ANC works out on the B752 E-tops

 

[cactusboy53]

I'm just dissappointed that this was seemingly not well thought out. If you announce that you are going to provide a particular service, you should be sure that you have the staff and tools to provide that service. US Airways management announced "non-stop service" from CLT to Hawaii. I don't know if is poor planning, wrong equipment, pilot induced, or what.

HP announced non-stop coast to coast service from JFK, BOS, etc. to LAX, SFO, etc. More times than not we were able to take the A319 on these missions (although sometimes with seat restrictions). The B757 would likely have been a better overall aircraft for this, but we got it done. Over a course of time the aircraft filled up. I'm not entirely sure why we stopped these services...perhaps because we aquired US Air and had bases in BOS, LGA, PHL, and CLT. Who knows.

As an employee and stockholder, my expectations are much higher than the present results.

 

[PHXFLYR]

You have stock in this place ??? YGTBSM


PHXFLYR

 

[HAL]

I'm just dissappointed that this was seemingly not well thought out. If you announce that you are going to provide a particular service, you should be sure that you have the staff and tools to provide that service. US Airways management announced "non-stop service" from CLT to Hawaii. I don't know if is poor planning, wrong equipment, pilot induced, or what.

As much as I get a grin out of the situation, I think it's mostly a matter of bad luck. The 762 can probably do this flight more than 97% of the time, however they decided to inagurate it during the 3% of bad headwind weather. Last week I had a SEA-HNL flight that blocked over 7 hours - normally about 5.5. Those same days Alaska had to send all their Hawaii-bound flights from SEA and PDX through OAK for fuel & a shorter trans-Pac route. Sometimes the dice just get rolled against you.

Oh, and I remember Parker & McClelland telling us (when I was there) around mid-2005 that the transcons were being cut because we couldn't compete with the fares offered by the big boys - UA, AA, DL, and the up-and-comer JetBlue. I also remember barely squeaking into SFO from BOS in a 319 on bare-minimum fuel because the dispatchers $crewed the pooch on the forecast winds. I guess some things never change at good-'ol USAirways!

HAL

 

[Metrojet]

As much as I get a grin out of the situation, I think it's mostly a matter of bad luck. The 762 can probably do this flight more than 97% of the time, however they decided to inagurate it during the 3% of bad headwind weather. Last week I had a SEA-HNL flight that blocked over 7 hours - normally about 5.5. Those same days Alaska had to send all their Hawaii-bound flights from SEA and PDX through OAK for fuel & a shorter trans-Pac route. Sometimes the dice just get rolled against you.

Oh, and I remember Parker & McClelland telling us (when I was there) around mid-2005 that the transcons were being cut because we couldn't compete with the fares offered by the big boys - UA, AA, DL, and the up-and-comer JetBlue. I also remember barely squeaking into SFO from BOS in a 319 on bare-minimum fuel because the dispatchers $crewed the pooch on the forecast winds. I guess some things never change at good-'ol USAirways!

HAL

Hal -

Totally off topic - but the family and I flew on HA last summer on flt 1 lax -hnl - we had a great flight and great vacation - and we hope to do the same this summer again - are you going to bid the A330?

Metrojet

 

[JudgeSmails218]

Dude.....

You sobered up and I completely agree!

The Hatfield and Mckoy bull******************** is not helping

those of us on furlough one F#($%king bit!
:uzi:

Amen to that!

 

[HAL]

Hal -

Totally off topic - but the family and I flew on HA last summer on flt 1 lax -hnl - we had a great flight and great vacation - and we hope to do the same this summer again - are you going to bid the A330?

Metrojet

Glad to hear you were treated well on our flight. It's nice to hear good reports, especially from people who know the business. As far as my bidding the Airbus - not right away. I'd rather be flying than spending the next 9 months training, then sitting on the sidelines while everyone else gets IOE. Life is good where I'm at right now, we have a decent TA to vote on, and I'm cautiously optimistic about our future. I'm sure I'll bid onto it within a couple of years - long enough for our training dept to get a handle on the thing. I'd hate to know more going in than my instructors do!

HAL

 

[cactusboy53]

You have stock in this place ??? YGTBSM


PHXFLYR

Smart investor? Nah. Lucky...you betcha. Bought in after 9/11 and did well. Bought in again pre-US Air aquistion....hung on through that change up and sold in the early 50's. Bought recently at 2, and after the east melts down and the OC (original cactus) come in to help Doug save the day.....sell at say....$13 (before the merge with UAUA / AAA is announced)....

HAL...Thanks for the 767 insight. Everything at American Western is here, wish you were beautiful..........

 

[PHXFLYR]

LOL....I really wasn't thinking "smart investor " when I posted that, but "touche" just the same.

PHXFLYR

 

[Tejas-Jet]

I'm just dissappointed that this was seemingly not well thought out. If you announce that you are going to provide a particular service, you should be sure that you have the staff and tools to provide that service. US Airways management announced "non-stop service" from CLT to Hawaii. I don't know if is poor planning, wrong equipment, pilot induced, or what.


As an employee and stockholder, my expectations are much higher than the present results.

I'm sure Doug doesn't log into FI.com. However, what with all the complaining about this...has anyone e-mailed Doug with their complaints on this? ...or Lyle...?

Please let us know what any of them has say about this.

On another note, I pass rode on you guys back in Npvember. Got the last 2 seats on a 767 out of MCO. the agents were great as were the cabin crew. thanks for the great service !!!

 

[PHXFLYR]

Your welcome.


PHXFLYR