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Voice Of Reason

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Craig Ferguson Show Last Night: Slams CAL, Praises DAL


(Once this comes up on YouTube, someone needs to show the airline CEOs, since he is stating the obvious regarding how the public feels about commuters...not to mention the fact that no matter WHAT you try to do, the public will ALWAYS see express as "Continental Airlines" or whatever so it reflects on the major airline). (same could have happened if DL commuter, so not airline specific)
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http://www.livedash.com/transcript/the_late_late_show_with_craig_ferguson/5/KPIX/Tuesday_December_15_2009/122304/
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Saw it. We deserved everything he said. So sick of these RJ cities passing themselves off as "Continental" but that is this industry now. Passing it along to our CEO trust me...
 
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You gotta admit he summed up the reality of code sharing pretty well.
All airline management should be required to watch that.
 
It might be a fundamental turning point when the dissatisfaction with your product starts to seep into the cultural mindset in this way. Not a good sign. Completely deserved. CAL offers about as whittled down product as you can have and still recognize it. You paid for a seat, there it is, there's nothing more. Props when you expected a jet. Small jet when you expected a big jet. A voucher when you expected a seat. Isn't that what a reservation is? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S67oEll2Azs
 
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densoo said:
It might be a fundamental turning point when the dissatisfaction with your product starts to seep into the cultural mindset in this way. Not a good sign. Completely deserved. CAL offers about as whittled down product as you can have and still recognize it. You paid for a seat, there it is, there's nothing more. Props when you expected a jet. Small jet when you expected a big jet. A voucher when you expected a seat. Isn't that what a reservation is? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S67oEll2Azs
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awesome...I'm not big on Seinfeld but great clip :)
 
ATRCA said:
Who's Craig Ferguson? I've never heard of him? A comedian?
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Celebrating 1000th episode
http://www.cinemaspy.com/article.php?id=3724

"Scottish-born comedian Craig Ferguson is preparing to celebrate the 1000th episode of CBS' The Late Late Show later tonight (or is that early tomorrow morning?), and to commemorate the auspicious occasion we've decided to offer up a couple of very funny videos in this article that showcase the late night host and comedian at his [almost] best.



Ferguson took over the show from Craig Kilborn in 2005 and it's been a straight up rise to the top ever since, with most polls voting Ferguson the best late night talk show host in either the 11:30pm or 12:30am time slot.

Expect Tuesday's episode to be raucous and typical of Ferguson's irreverent, perspicacious delivery. "Those incorrigible bags o' fun, 'The Late Late Show' puppets, will take over the show for the 1000th episode," CBS said in a news release.

"Wavy, the crocodile puppet, will serve as the host of the show as he welcomes guests Kristen Bell, Maria Bello and Jason Schwartzman. The musical guest is a performance of 'Dracula's Lament' by Jason Segel with his puppet, Dracula, from the film 'Forgetting Sarah Marshal' and the band The Broken West."
...Ferguson is the best thing to happen to late night talk since Johnny Carson.



We're expecting more treats will be in store, too.

Why are we so stoked, you ask? Because Ferguson is the best thing to happen to late night talk since Johnny Carson. Really. This guy could do the whole show by himself with no guests. And that should tell you something. But don't take our word for it. Watch Ferguson below..." (****AT LINK ABOVE***)
 
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Well, I wanted to see the "Late Show" but got the "Late Late Show" with Craig Ferguson, WTF is up with that... To me this guy carries no credibility, as he is nothing more than an entertainer, a court jester, on par with Bozo the Clown. However I will say, he is right about this one. My point: too bad we can't get people with more clout and credibility to see this, no one is going to listen to this guy with a straight face.
 
Captain Morgan said:
Well, I wanted to see the "Late Show" but got the "Late Late Show" with Craig Ferguson, WTF is up with that... To me this guy carries no credibility, as he is nothing more than an entertainer, a court jester, on par with Bozo the Clown. However I will say, he is right about this one. My point: too bad we can't get people with more clout and credibility to see this, no one is going to listen to this guy with a straight face.
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Well of course he is an entertainer, I don't think he would disagree with you at all. The sad thing is your discription also fits people like Glen Beck and Rush Limbaugh, yet some people actually think they are journalists!
 
Captain Morgan said:
Well, I wanted to see the "Late Show" but got the "Late Late Show" with Craig Ferguson, WTF is up with that... To me this guy carries no credibility, as he is nothing more than an entertainer, a court jester, on par with Bozo the Clown. However I will say, he is right about this one. My point: too bad we can't get people with more clout and credibility to see this, no one is going to listen to this guy with a straight face.
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This is exactly right. He is a "court jester" and if you've read Shakespeare you know that the role of the court jester was not primarily to make jokes, but to speak the truth through jokes. This was the only acceptable way to criticize those in power, especially the king. The court jester's comments typically represented what the average person could see was happening, but didn't have the voice to say it. Ferguson and all the other late night comedians fulfill this role. Corporate types and politicians ignore them at their own peril. Many have learned this by actually going on the shows that criticize them as was seen in the last election cycle.

In business, there is a monetary component to just about everything. What's CAL's advertising budget? Tens of millions? Hundreds of millions more likely. Ads, arena sponsorship, bought industry awards. That one clip on Craig Ferguson last night has probably undone millions of dollars of carefully crafted image-making by CAL. Every person who sees that clip will walk away with two things next time they sit in front of expedia, orbitz, or xyz.com travel site: Continental, bad; Delta, good. They may still choose CAL for other reasons, but they'll be working against the image that Ferguson skillfully painted.

An image by the way that could not have been painted so effectively by anyone but a comedian.
 
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This is exactly right. He is a "court jester" and if you've read Shakespeare you know that the role of the court jester was not primarily to make jokes, but to speak the truth through jokes. This was the only acceptable way to criticize those in power, especially the king. The court jester's comments typically represented what the average person could see was happening, but didn't have the voice to say it. Ferguson and all the other late night comedians fulfill this role. Corporate types and politicians ignore them at their own peril. Many have learned this by actually going on the shows that criticize them as was seen in the last election cycle.

In business, there is a monetary component to just about everything. What's CAL's advertising budget? Tens of millions? Hundreds of millions more likely. Ads, arena sponsorship, bought industry awards. That one clip on Craig Ferguson last night has probably undone millions of dollars of carefully crafted image-making by CAL. Every person who sees that clip will walk away with two things next time they sit in front of expedia, orbitz, or xyz.com travel site: Continental, bad; Delta, good. They may still choose CAL for other reasons, but they'll be working against the image that Ferguson skillfully painted.

An image by the way that could not have been painted so effectively by anyone but a comedian.
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Interesting fact. It's pure coincidence that I used that term to describe Craig. Either way, I prefer someone just to tell these CEOs how shameful they've made the industry, not sugarcoat it.
 
Craig Ferguson is a recently certified private pilot. I know, I know, just saying, he is an airplane guy.
 
tonight's episode 1000th (CBS Tues going on Weds: 12:37-1:37a eastern)

I wouldn't be surprised if he mentions it again and again and again. DVR (or watch) tonight's episode too, and he'll likely work it in it another way. (Although tonight's is the special celebration episode, so not sure if it is all prerecorded or what.
Great show anyway.
 
densoo said:
This is exactly right. He is a "court jester" and if you've read Shakespeare you know that the role of the court jester was not primarily to make jokes, but to speak the truth through jokes. This was the only acceptable way to criticize those in power, especially the king. The court jester's comments typically represented what the average person could see was happening, but didn't have the voice to say it. Ferguson and all the other late night comedians fulfill this role. Corporate types and politicians ignore them at their own peril. Many have learned this by actually going on the shows that criticize them as was seen in the last election cycle.

In business, there is a monetary component to just about everything. What's CAL's advertising budget? Tens of millions? Hundreds of millions more likely. Ads, arena sponsorship, bought industry awards. That one clip on Craig Ferguson last night has probably undone millions of dollars of carefully crafted image-making by CAL. Every person who sees that clip will walk away with two things next time they sit in front of expedia, orbitz, or xyz.com travel site: Continental, bad; Delta, good. They may still choose CAL for other reasons, but they'll be working against the image that Ferguson skillfully painted.

An image by the way that could not have been painted so effectively by anyone but a comedian.
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excellent observation, and I agree 100%
 
rjacobs said:
Says the guy that used to fly RJ's for XJT. ****************************** bag
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Big deal so did I. And I'll say the same thing now that I said when I was there: 'Why the f*ck is CAL putting an RJ on this route!?!' Now days I also get to say 'Why the f*ck is Colgan on this'. My personal favorite is Connection/Express service between EWR/IAH and 'small' markets like ATL, BOS, MSP, and ORD. Kudos to Larry, Jeff, and the whole marketing team for p!ssing away our better customer base! Just pretend it's 1999 every year dear management.
 
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Who's Craig Ferguson? I've never heard of him? A comedian?
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He is not a very good comedian. I have tried to watch him, but I just don't think he is very clever.

He is too big of a moron to distinguish between mainline and the connection-you ain't missing much.
 
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That's tok funny and good for him for pointing it out- negative press for the rj i used to fly is also a good thing.
What sucks though is that he could have got a tiny plane at every legacy out there and delta's right at the top when it comes to selling out. And overbooking makes flights much much cheaper.

What happened to the louis ck vid- "everything's amazing-nobody's happy" someone with more video skills than me should do a montage and clown him back

"you're in a CHAIR..... In the SKY(!).....'ehhnnn... But the seat doesn't go back very far... '..."
 
The sad part is that you can change the city pairs in this story and switch out the players with any legacy airline in the country. Unfortunately for us, CAL once again makes it onto tv in a negative light.
 
Granted this is nothing new for us, :erm:, but had he chosen DAL to fly from BNA to LAX via ATL, what kind of equipment would he have been on? It would have been a CRJ900. WTF, over. I'm not defending the use of ERJ's but come on, DAL would have provided the EXACT same service to ATL the XJT was ging to IAH. RJ, RJ, RJ. He simply chose to drive to ATL. Luck of the deal. Now, if he had driven to IAH and taken a 757 or 737 to LAX, then you can compare apples to apples. He can kiss my blarney stones.
 
Ex737Driver said:
Granted this is nothing new for us, :erm:, but had he chosen DAL to fly from BNA to LAX via ATL, what kind of equipment would he have been on? It would have been a CRJ900. WTF, over. I'm not defending the use of ERJ's but come on, DAL would have provided the EXACT same service to ATL the XJT was ging to IAH. RJ, RJ, RJ. He simply chose to drive to ATL. Luck of the deal. Now, if he had driven to IAH and taken a 757 or 737 to LAX, then you can compare apples to apples. He can kiss my blarney stones.
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Unfortunately, perception is reality. He spun it into a great story and punchline, "you're not going to tell anyone are you? No, of course not--Continental." I think it would not have been an issue if they hadn't oversold the flight. Flying has turned into a greyhound bus trip. The part of him being cramped in the plane was funny. But so what. That's pretty well expected. What they don't expect is to pay for a ticket and be kicked off the airplane. That's what set him off I think. And he's completely right. Like the Seinfeld episode said, they know how to take your money for the seat, but then they don't hold the seat. That's not a reservation. It's a crapshoot.
 
Ex737Driver said:
Granted this is nothing new for us, :erm:, but had he chosen DAL to fly from BNA to LAX via ATL, what kind of equipment would he have been on? It would have been a CRJ900. WTF, over. I'm not defending the use of ERJ's but come on, DAL would have provided the EXACT same service to ATL the XJT was ging to IAH. RJ, RJ, RJ. He simply chose to drive to ATL. Luck of the deal. Now, if he had driven to IAH and taken a 757 or 737 to LAX, then you can compare apples to apples. He can kiss my blarney stones.
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A possibility at BNA, but the majority of the seats out of BNA are mainline on the 88, and 738.
 
Doesn't Delta have the most RJ departures among legacies?
 

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