Questions for Republic guys

[Hose A. Jiminez]

1. When are your respective contracts amendable?

2. Considering that the "commuters" are no longer a short stop on your way to a career at a "major" are you going to demand pay worthy of someone who safely hauls thousands of men women and children around the world? Something on the order of +/- 100k for mid level FOs, +/- 200k for mid level Captains? Will you tell the company to pound sand until you get what you deserve?

32K base for 3yr FO and 62K base for 6yr captain is obscene. (Republic pay from APC) Im sure I do not have to point that out.

You guys need to realize that you'll not likely be moving on from Chataqua/Shuttle/Rep etc. to a major like you probably planned. Your airline is moving in, in its entirety, and bringing you with it.

I mean no disrespect but you need to tow the line and demand fair compensation. This affects us all. The future viability of this career depends on it.

Thanks in advance for your replies.

 

[crj567]

1. When are your respective contracts amendable?

2. Considering that the "commuters" are no longer a short stop on your way to a career at a "major" are you going to demand pay worthy of someone who safely hauls thousands of men women and children around the world? Something on the order of +/- 100k for mid level FOs, +/- 200k for mid level Captains? Will you tell the company to pound sand until you get what you deserve?

32K base for 3yr FO and 62K base for 6yr captain is obscene. (Republic pay from APC) Im sure I do not have to point that out.

You guys need to realize that you'll not likely be moving on from Chataqua/Shuttle/Rep etc. to a major like you probably planned. Your airline is moving in, in its entirety, and bringing you with it.

I mean no disrespect but you need to tow the line and demand fair compensation. This affects us all. The future viability of this career depends on it.

Thanks in advance for your replies.

Hopfully, none of this will matter.

Delta, AirTran and everyone else is throwing everything at these guys-including the kitchen sink. I think it will be very difficult for Republic to survive more than a year or two-especially after DAL and United stop giving them connection business.

Any new airline's survival is an uphill battle, even in the best of times. These days, the big guys (especially AirTran) will try very hard to kill Republic. I think their chances of doing so are excellent. Many people at Republic have no idea how vulnerable they really are.

I hate to see people lose their jobs, but to see what has become of Midwest pilots makes me far, far less sympathetic toward these kids....

 

[rubberlayin]

Respect your post throughout. You might not get many intelligent replies tho considering your signature is "Como se Yama Yo MAMA!!!".

 

[Hose A. Jiminez]

CRJ, agreed.

Rubber layin, "como se yama yo mama" is a line from the movie "Fandango" Not trying to offend the too easily offended.

Question 3. Do you guys realize the gravity of the situation?

 

[Hose A. Jiminez]

Also, "Hose A. Jiminez" is from "The Right Stuff" and an actual real life comedian from back in the 60's. Thought Id give you a heads up before you label me a racist.

 

[lookin4better]

Is Delta or any other airline the currently uses Republic for contract feed actually doing anything about it? Or are they planning to do anything about it? Are they not going to renew connection flying contracts with Republic or cancel them? I would guess they want to cancel contracts, as they are now giving their competitor’s money. In this very competitive industry, I am sure they will put a stop to that ASAP.

I agree, once on their own (which looks to be the plan), they won’t last 2 years. There is enough capacity in the system already.

 

[rubberlayin]

Love Fandango! DOM! Can't remember where your line is in the movie but whatever. There's only one man for this flight, Truman!

-Hey! who messed with my laundry!!

 

[Jabwmu]

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[LearLove]

CRJ, agreed.

Rubber layin, "como se yama yo mama" is a line from the movie "Fandango"

great movie -

"You sold your car to throw a party? But you didn't even graduate!"

"they've seen butts before, they're from New Jersey"

"...O.K. now you'll be coming out here and you'll be doing a stable fall face down frog modified. Now out here comes the static line 'cause it goes like from this to here see, and then the pilot chute will open and it'll pull the bridle out and then the main canopy will be open see, 'cause they're all connected, and then you'll be down here and you'll be looking up here at the WDI indicator and you'll also going to check for Mae West and if that's not there then you need to check here for 4 panels and a hole. Then when you come down you're gonna find the piece and you're gonna land over here and you're going to get in this position - except you don't wanna do that - because that means you in trouble, so what you want to do is you wanna get right here and then you're gonna come round here and you're gonna fold up and you're gonna do a toggle and jettison and always watch the horizon O.K?.."

 

[Hose A. Jiminez]

Love Fandango! DOM! Can't remember where your line is in the movie but whatever. There's only one man for this flight, Truman!

-Hey! who messed with my laundry!!

Its when the car is broke down, Gardner is taking a leak in the bar ditch and mumbling some song that ends in "como se yama yo mama" Then asks the always pertinent question on West Texas road trips:

"What do you reckon we ought to have for breakfast... BBQ?" (puke sound in the background) "O.K. Chili"

 

[Lear70]

Is Delta or any other airline the currently uses Republic for contract feed actually doing anything about it? Or are they planning to do anything about it? Are they not going to renew connection flying contracts with Republic or cancel them? I would guess they want to cancel contracts, as they are now giving their competitor’s money. In this very competitive industry, I am sure they will put a stop to that ASAP.

Unless the cancellation fees and penalties are less than the cost to let them finish their contracts and the loss of revenue from passengers flying on RAH flights, I'm sure they won't try early cancellation. Simple money game.

However, I'd be extremely shocked to see them renew those contracts. Which is good news for other regionals. I'm expecting to see an interesting hiring trend at those other Regionals as the flying to RAH is yanked at the earliest available opportunity, at the slow expense of RAH jobs.

I agree, once on their own (which looks to be the plan), they won’t last 2 years. There is enough capacity in the system already.

I think it'll be longer than that. The first renewal contracts come up well after that 2 year mark. I'm guessing 4-5 years before we see a real pinch at RAH, long enough for them to shift their business model. I'm sure their management sees it coming just as obviously as we do.

What a mess...

 

[RobCat]

1. When are your respective contracts amendable?

2. Considering that the "commuters" are no longer a short stop on your way to a career at a "major" are you going to demand pay worthy of someone who safely hauls thousands of men women and children around the world? Something on the order of +/- 100k for mid level FOs, +/- 200k for mid level Captains? Will you tell the company to pound sand until you get what you deserve?

32K base for 3yr FO and 62K base for 6yr captain is obscene. (Republic pay from APC) Im sure I do not have to point that out.

You guys need to realize that you'll not likely be moving on from Chataqua/Shuttle/Rep etc. to a major like you probably planned. Your airline is moving in, in its entirety, and bringing you with it.

I mean no disrespect but you need to tow the line and demand fair compensation. This affects us all. The future viability of this career depends on it.

Thanks in advance for your replies.

No worries we are on it. You are absolutely right, we do realize the situation. What is going to, and needs to happen isn't going to happen overnight but trust that we are on it. The future viability of RAH pilots careers depends on it.

 

[Hose A. Jiminez]

RobCat,

If you are a RAH pilot, that is the response we are all looking for. If we cant kill you, we'll all be behind you. I mean that sort of tongue in cheek like.

Thanks

Also: Are all of the RAH carriers under the same contract? When are they (or is it) up for section ?

 

[Aerosurfer]

No worries we are on it. You are absolutely right, we do realize the situation. What is going to, and needs to happen isn't going to happen overnight but trust that we are on it. The future viability of RAH pilots careers depends on it.

x2. Its gonna take longer than everyone hopes and surely would like, but we'll make it happen!

As far as the Haters and rumor spreaders about our feeder flying......

http://www.centreforaviation.com/ne...st-vision-yet-of-consolidation-strategy/page1

This has been posted elsewhere but its near the top of the article

Bedford said he was also questioned on whether the company had the ability to run both a fixed fee and branded services and whether or not its fixed-fee contracts were solid. “These are long-term contracts,” he responded. “The first contract doesn’t come for renewal until 2012 and that is with Continental for 15 50-seat regional jets. Then the contracts segment all the way through 2020 and our larger-capacity aircraft are under eight-plus-year contracts. There are no loopholes or openings that would create disruptions but we are always cognizant of the counter-party risk.”

 

[Hose A. Jiminez]

Im talking about the pilot RLA contract. Is there one RAH contract, or does each carrier have a separate contract. When is it (or are they) up for section 6?

 

[starchkr]

RobCat,

If you are a RAH pilot, that is the response we are all looking for. If we cant kill you, we'll all be behind you. I mean that sort of tongue in cheek like.

Thanks

Also: Are all of the RAH carriers under the same contract? When are they (or is it) up for section ?

No we are not "all" under the same contract. The F9 contract extends for 5 more years as approved by BB and RAH. After that we'll see, hopefully the rest of the company will finally stand up for pay that is worthy of the aircraft they fly.

 

[crj567]

I am thinking of a bit more immediate threat:

RAH is buying all sorts of new planes, and trying to expand. Meanwhile, AirTran and Delta especially are doing their best to throw as many of their flight on as many of RAH's routes as possible-and you can bet every ticket RAH sells will be matched or undercut by both these majors.

Now, considering all the friends and familty Midwest people had around that area, and how pissed off all these people are, it would appear that RAH is not creating a great first impression. Would you buy a ticket on these guys if your friend or relative had just told you about losing their job to some 23 year old who makes less than half what the Midwest pilot did? I doubt it-especially when you can fly on Delta or AirTran for the same or less.

Expansion is expensive, new planes are expensive, and all this competition has to be bleeding potential revenue. Does anyone think RAH can stay afloat very long without more happy campers? I think RAH will run into a cash problem very quickly, their branded ops are only about 75% full-not a good load factor by any standard.

http://www.businesswire.com/portal/...d=news_view&newsId=20091207005786&newsLang=en

-Pissing all over the local icon and firing everyone is no way to start a successful airline.

 

[Corbon]

I am thinking of a bit more immediate threat:

RAH is buying all sorts of new planes, and trying to expand. Meanwhile, AirTran and Delta especially are doing their best to throw as many of their flight on as many of RAH's routes as possible-and you can bet every ticket RAH sells will be matched or undercut by both these majors.

Now, considering all the friends and familty Midwest people had around that area, and how pissed off all these people are, it would appear that RAH is not creating a great first impression. Would you buy a ticket on these guys if your friend or relative had just told you about losing their job to some 23 year old who makes less than half what the Midwest pilot did? I doubt it-especially when you can fly on Delta or AirTran for the same or less.

Expansion is expensive, new planes are expensive, and all this competition has to be bleeding potential revenue. Does anyone think RAH can stay afloat very long without more happy campers? I think RAH will run into a cash problem very quickly, their branded ops are only about 75% full-not a good load factor by any standard.

http://www.businesswire.com/portal/...d=news_view&newsId=20091207005786&newsLang=en

-Pissing all over the local icon and firing everyone is no way to start a successful airline.

From your article:
"Load factor on branded operations was 77.9%, an increase of 3.4 percentage points from combined operations at Frontier and Midwest in November 2008"

And from here:
http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/airtran-airways-reports-november-traffic-78319357.htmlhttp://http://www.prnewswire.com/ne...irways-reports-november-traffic-78319357.html

It says Airtrans load factor increased .9 points from 75.8% to 76.7% during the same period.

So what other made-up fantasies do you have about our impending doom?

I suppose you think that a 100% load factor automatically means you're making money, right?

 

[Going2Baja]

Are we really considering Republic a Major? Maybe a LCC, but really a Regional.

Baja.

 

[crj567]

From your article:
"Load factor on branded operations was 77.9%, an increase of 3.4 percentage points from combined operations at Frontier and Midwest in November 2008"

And from here:
http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/airtran-airways-reports-november-traffic-78319357.htmlhttp://http://www.prnewswire.com/ne...irways-reports-november-traffic-78319357.html

It says Airtrans load factor increased .9 points from 75.8% to 76.7% during the same period.

So what other made-up fantasies do you have about our impending doom?

I suppose you think that a 100% load factor automatically means you're making money, right?

We shall see....