MD11 Crash

[St. Nic]

Anyone have any info on it? The ATT link is kind of light on details.
http://my.att.net/s/editorial.dll?f...&eetype=article&render=y&ac=3&ck=&ch=ne&ch=ne

 

[Brasilia Pup]

That's new to me. Sorry to hear this.

 

[Cardinal]

Sad. 7 total onboard, all injured, 3 American crew died.

http://www.avherald.com/h?article=423638d8&opt=1

Z-BAV Before
http://www.airliners.net/uf/view.file?id=536911617&filename=1259420604JVf8BY.jpeg

Z-BAV After
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Avient/McDonnell-Douglas-MD-11F/1615946/L/

 

[SFR]

Why was the crew American Airlines?

 

[pianoman]

Why was the crew American Airlines?

They weren't. They were from the United States of America.

 

[Cardinal]

Why was the crew American Airlines?

Shut up, mouthbreather.

 

[Cowboy75]

Anyone have any info on it? The ATT link is kind of light on details.
http://my.att.net/s/editorial.dll?f...&eetype=article&render=y&ac=3&ck=&ch=ne&ch=ne

You want info or is this your version of morbid curiosity?

 

[HA25]

Why was the crew American Airlines?

please try to be serious, 3 guys I knew personally died today and they and their families deserve some respect.. You know what he meant!

 

[Cowboy75]

please try to be serious, 3 guys I knew personally died today and they and their families deserve some respect.. You know what he meant!

Ditto, prayers to the families of your friends.

I find it ironic the author of this thread is former us air. They have experienced their own sad history of accidents. They are very sensitive to any mention of their legacy as taboo.

In this day of Google searches info should be easy to find.

 

[St. Nic]

please try to be serious, 3 guys I knew personally died today and they and their families deserve some respect.. You know what he meant!

Was this a World Airways crash? I can't think of any other MD-11 operator off the top of my head (aside from UPS and FedEx).

 

[St. Nic]

Ditto, prayers to the families of your friends.

I find it ironic the author of this thread is former us air. They have experienced their own sad history of accidents. They are very sensitive to any mention of their legacy as taboo.

In this day of Google searches info should be easy to find.

I did a google search and nothing came up. Thanks for the encouraging, team building character you openly share. You represent your class well. While you are at it, you might want to bash Sully a little more, it's been a few days since you last did that.

 

[HA25]

Avient is the airline... it's a small outfit out of the UK with African register.. the crew was former GAC.

 

[waveflyer]

Prayers to all onboard and their loved ones.

 

[njcapt]

Why was the crew American Airlines?

You are an absolute POS. GFY.

 

[Lear70]

Why was the crew American Airlines?

I'm giving you 24 hours to explain why you were not insulting a crew who just lost their life.

After that, if you haven't responded appropriately in this thread and apologized if your post wasn't simply a poorly-chosen word arrangement, I'm giving you a 10 day vacation to think about it.

 

[filejw]

Guys lets chill just a minute. I think he was quoting an article in a Shanghai newspaper and they would be using a Chinese English speaker to translate. Not a perfect science.

 

[Fox-Tree]

Was this a World Airways crash? I can't think of any other MD-11 operator off the top of my head (aside from UPS and FedEx).

Let's see..........

KLM
EVA
Lufthansa
China Eastern
Shanghai
Martinair
Aeroflot
Centurion

To name a few.

 

[St. Nic]

Let's see..........

KLM
EVA
Lufthansa
China Eastern
Shanghai
Martinair
Aeroflot
Centurion

To name a few.

Golly! Thanks a lot mr FDX man!

 

[Cowboy75]

I did a google search and nothing came up. Thanks for the encouraging, team building character you openly share. You represent your class well. While you are at it, you might want to bash Sully a little more, it's been a few days since you last did that.

Well, I did a Google search myself and had no problem finding multiple articles on this tradgedy.

I have no problem representing a class of pilots who were employed prior to the acquisition only to be replaced by pilots who were furloughed. No need to lecture me about character, St. Nic.

I'll give you a review of the scheme you seem so proud to promote:

After shopping several law firms, a group of East Pilots found a law firm willing to guide, indeed promote, a scheme of advancing East Pilot seniority rights to the detriment of West Pilot seniority rights. This law firm, Seham, Seham, Meltz & Petersen, LLP, advised the East Pilots that, with majority status, they could create USAPA and use it to promote their seniority interests in disregard of the Nicolau Award. Mr. Seham told them, relying on his tortured reading of Rakestraw, that USAPA could advance East Pilot interests to the detriment of West Pilot interests so long as there was any rational relation to a legitimate union objective, regardless of USAPA's actual motives.

USAPA, while guided by its legal advisor, left quite an evidentiary trail of bad faith. Much of that trail was apparently created to garner political support among East Pilots who wanted a union that would advance their majority interests over those of the West Pilot minority. USAPA, with legal guidance, acted while motivated by that bad faith. It drafted a constitution intended to create a pretext defining a duty to disregard the Nicolau Award. It made campaign promises to disregard the Nicolau Award. Once elected, it embarked on a preordained course to disregard the Nicolau Award. It did all these things solely for illegitimate motives.

USAPA left the West Pilots no option but to institute this litigation. Plaintiffs filed this action after the Airline announced plans to reduce service in a manner that would burden West Pilots far more than they would have been burdened if the transition to Operational Pilot Integration had occurred as intended. USAPA selected the Seham law firm to handle its defense. In essence, therefore, the Seham law firm was put in a position of defending both itself for advising USAPA to take the actions that led to this lawsuit and USAPA for following that advice.

 

[flygirlqt]

Good lord...can we please show some respect and at least keep this USAPA crap, and other stupid comments off a thread with this tragedy? People lost their lives, families are irretrievably broken.