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AWACoff

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Southwest pilots,

Is this true:


Our trips pay the following minimums:

1 Day Trip: 6.5 TFP
2 Day Trip: 13 TFP
3 Day Trip: 19.5 TFP
4 Day Trip: 26 TFP

You basically get paid the higher of what you block each day or the number of hours on duty times .74


If I understand this correctly, your duty rig a FAR better than any I have ever heard of before. The best I've ever had was a 1:2 duty rig (1 hour of pay per 2 hours of duty).
 
It is a little more complex than that.

ADG = average daily guarantee =6.5 per day, which is what your example above shows

DPM = duty period minimum = 5 per duty period (read day)

DHR = duty hour rig = .74 like you said, so a 10 hour duty day would pay 7.4 trips

part of the difference between the 1:2 that others might have and our is the difference between trips and credit hours. I think that 1.13 is the accepted trip/credit hour conversion. so for us, 2 hours = 1.48 trips = 1.31 credit hours using the 1.13 conversion. still better than 1:2 though.

not sure how or where the 1.13 came from. I generally average 1.25 trips per flight hour. but I know that many other airlines average more credit hours than flight hours so that isn't a great data point.

I'm not that up on other airlines, but our rigs seem to work for us pretty well.
 
Thanks guys. I was mostly wondering about how your duty rig compared to the old standard duty rig of 1:2.

1.31 credit hours for every 2 hours of duty is phenomenally better than 1:2. Just another area for our NC to be aware of (hopefully they already are).
 
They already said it but it's .74 TRIPS FOR PAY per duty hour- not flight hour: duty hour- I'll let someone else give the formula for a tfp- it's still very good - I agree.

I think this decades bk's and destroying a lot of the rigs industry wide- is mgmt telling pilots they ought to subsidize the hub and spoke system they created- then framing it as a "can't get paid for doing nothing" argument.
 
Southwest pilots,

Is this true:


Our trips pay the following minimums:

1 Day Trip: 6.5 TFP
2 Day Trip: 13 TFP
3 Day Trip: 19.5 TFP
4 Day Trip: 26 TFP

You basically get paid the higher of what you block each day or the number of hours on duty times .74


If I understand this correctly, your duty rig a FAR better than any I have ever heard of before. The best I've ever had was a 1:2 duty rig (1 hour of pay per 2 hours of duty).

Sort of true. Minimum pay for a day is 5 tfp. A trip must average 6.5 per day and the duty hour ratio is .74 tfp for each hour of duty. A trip will pay these minimums or actual flown. So for example a 3 day trip could pay as follows:

Day one 8 tfp actual
Day two 3 actual so the 5 min
Day three 6 actual
total of 19 tfp so the 6.5 min per day would come in and the trip would pay 19.5
 
Every time SWA's TFP comes up in a conversation I'm left wondering why your company makes it so convoluted. Multiply flight time by an hourly wage, apply any rigs and you're done. What's with the TFP conversion? What purpose does it serve? (BTW, great duty rig!)
 

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