Midwest Pilots

[airlinepilot]

Any Midwest guys and gals that have answers to the following questions:

1. How many of you were flying the line (not on furlough) when RUH took over

2. How many of you that were on the line are flying now?

3. How were your incorporated into the SL at RUH?

Just curious because I have heard various reports....

 

[Mike man]

What is RUH? If you are referring to Republic Airways Holdings please see below for acceptable abbreviations...

RPA
RJET
RAH
RP

 

[MCDU]

The R's all have to do with replacement. No airline has replaced more pilots then Republic. The windfall Republic pilots have gained the last few years come at the expense of many seasoned real jobs at real carriers. Repulic is a disgrace.

M

 

[climb2slow]

The R's all have to do with replacement. No airline has replaced more pilots then Republic. The windfall Republic pilots have gained the last few years come at the expense of many seasoned real jobs at real carriers. Repulic is a disgrace.

M

MCDOOSH..The republic pilots have nothing to do with who their company chooses to buy....I could easily become one of those 'seasoned' pilots to lose their jobs. But if that happens, it will not be because Republic pilots deliberately took it.

 

[eaglesview]

MCDOOSH..The republic pilots have nothing to do with who their company chooses to buy....I could easily become one of those 'seasoned' pilots to lose their jobs. But if that happens, it will not be because Republic pilots deliberately took it.

Sorry I have to agree with "mcdoosh." When is the last time you heard a republic pilot say anything about all the experienced pilots their company has put on the street. Have you heard even one say "maybe this isn't right" NO They think it's their right!

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Sorry I have to agree with "mcdoosh." When is the last time you heard a republic pilot say anything about all the experienced pilots their company has put on the street. Have you heard even one say "maybe this isn't right" NO They think it's their right!

No, what they are doing is being noticeably silent when it is good for them. We all do it. Somewhere it needs to stop.

 

[9rj9]

midwest missed their chance when they turned down Airtran.

 

[T2Bus]

The R's all have to do with replacement. No airline has replaced more pilots then Republic. The windfall Republic pilots have gained the last few years come at the expense of many seasoned real jobs at real carriers. Repulic is a disgrace.

M

Since you are a FLIGHT ATTENDANT, how do you know so much about all the airlines of the world and all their problems.

 

[Full of LUV]

Maybe....

midwest missed their chance when they turned down Airtran.

Maybe.... but they really missed their chance when the company announced that RAH would be taking half their flying in the near future, the WHOLE group should have said "over our striking body" and see if RAH was ready to step in and fly the whole schedule on day one. Instead, the senior guys facilitated an orderly transfer of flying from Midwest to RAH for what... an extra 6 months of salary. Sooooo short sighted......

 

[Captain Morgan]

Maybe.... but they really missed their chance when the company announced that RAH would be taking half their flying in the near future, the WHOLE group should have said "over our striking body" and see if RAH was ready to step in and fly the whole schedule on day one. Instead, the senior guys facilitated an orderly transfer of flying from Midwest to RAH for what... an extra 6 months of salary. Sooooo short sighted......

Here it is... RAH is prohibited to fly struck work by not only their own decency, but it's in our contract as well. If they struck we no worky... That didn't happen however.

 

[eaglesview]

Maybe.... but they really missed their chance when the company announced that RAH would be taking half their flying in the near future, the WHOLE group should have said "over our striking body" and see if RAH was ready to step in and fly the whole schedule on day one. Instead, the senior guys facilitated an orderly transfer of flying from Midwest to RAH for what... an extra 6 months of salary. Sooooo short sighted......

Although a nice idea there is this thing called the RLA. RAH pilots coninue there deafening silence.

 

[Full of LUV]

Rla....

Although a nice idea there is this thing called the RLA. RAH pilots coninue there deafening silence.

Last I heard there are no current prisoners in the US due to RLA violations. I'd say strike or "a mass not show up to work" and either the airline will go out of business, or it will negotiate fairly. RLA only really applies if you have jobs to return to.
Instead, the senior pilots just kept showing up while the junior half was furloughed and when it finally made it to them, they said, wait, you promised........
I'm no RAH fan, but they are right if it was struck work, they'd have more of a chance of rejecting it, but instead, it was not, and they were there right along with the senior MW pilots.
When the company is playing hardball with gernades, you can't show up to the game with a nerf bat and cry foul when the thing explodes in your face.
RLA applies to people negotiating in good faith, there is no LAW requiring people to work for a company at any pay or treatment level, now I agree it takes some cajones to walk away from a cushy capt position in your hometown 717 airline, but sometimes it takes a little longer view than 6 months to see that what the company just did to your bottom half of the seniority list is just the beginning.
Luv!

 

[eaglesview]

Last I heard there are no current prisoners in the US due to RLA violations. I'd say strike or "a mass not show up to work" and either the airline will go out of business, or it will negotiate fairly. RLA only really applies if you have jobs to return to.
Instead, the senior pilots just kept showing up while the junior half was furloughed and when it finally made it to them, they said, wait, you promised........
I'm no RAH fan, but they are right if it was struck work, they'd have more of a chance of rejecting it, but instead, it was not, and they were there right along with the senior MW pilots.
When the company is playing hardball with gernades, you can't show up to the game with a nerf bat and cry foul when the thing explodes in your face.
RLA applies to people negotiating in good faith, there is no LAW requiring people to work for a company at any pay or treatment level, now I agree it takes some cajones to walk away from a cushy capt position in your hometown 717 airline, but sometimes it takes a little longer view than 6 months to see that what the company just did to your bottom half of the seniority list is just the beginning.
Luv!

You make some good points. Obviously it easy to armchair quarterback after the fact. Unfortunatley the silence coming from the ranks at RAH speaks volumes. I do not believe they would honor a "picket line" and not fly "their (Midwest) flying." In 1989 when I was on strike at EAL, Continental was flying from east coast cities (like PHL ect) to ATL. They never "crossed a picket line" to do it.

An RAH pilot that showed up to work, and in his schedule was MKE to "XYZ" they would fly it.

 

[Raoul Duke]

so can someone actually answer the original question?

 

[Scope out RJ's]

The R's all have to do with replacement. No airline has replaced more pilots then Republic. The windfall Republic pilots have gained the last few years come at the expense of many seasoned real jobs at real carriers. Repulic is a disgrace.

M

.........................Says the Gulfstream International Academy washout!