Congress to Hold News Conference to Announce Air Safety Improvement 2:30EST

[Genital Leech]

Put them on a Leave of Absence until they meet the requirements. Screw grandfathering.

 

[Nevets]

Put them on a Leave of Absence until they meet the requirements. Screw grandfathering.

There is no grandfathering in the bill for anyone. Even pilots on currently employed will have to meet this requirement within 3 years of enactment.

 

[pdub20s]

There is no grandfathering in the bill for anyone. Even pilots on currently employed will have to meet this requirement within 3 years of enactment.

yea 1500hrs is 3 years wont be hard to to. Its only 42hr a month if you started from 0 hours

 

[JustaNumber]

There is no grandfathering in the bill for anyone. Even pilots on currently employed will have to meet this requirement within 3 years of enactment.

I guess it would have helped if I had read the bill. Not that the guys signing it will have read it...

 

[CFI2766]

This is promising...

I'd like to know exactly what shape the fatigue re-write will take. There will be huge pressure to make that part of the bill go away. Frankly, that part of the bill has the most promise to positively impact safety, IMHO.

 

[mitsdriver]

Just a thought. The bill talks about creating FAA database containing info about all checkride a pilot has taken, not just 121/135 checkrides. Will this deter people from getting "extracurricular" ratings such as seaplanes, gliders, balloons, etc. for the fear of exposing themselves to a possible checkride bust? If so, will it hurt the business of such schools? For those who happen to have a such bust in their record, will it hurt their airline career? If so, is that fair? (I don't think so)

 

[JustaNumber]

Just a thought. The bill talks about creating FAA database containing info about all checkride a pilot has taken, not just 121/135 checkrides. Will this deter people from getting "extracurricular" ratings such as seaplanes, gliders, balloons, etc. for the fear of exposing themselves to a possible checkride bust? If so, will it hurt the business of such schools? For those who happen to have a such bust in their record, will it hurt their airline career? If so, is that fair? (I don't think so)

Excellent points. However, hiring departments are not being told to accept or reject a certain number of busts, so as before, it will be a matter of judgement. The only change is, that judgement will now have to hold up to public scrutiny if a future accident occurs, as the airline won't be able to claim ignorance.

So I think common sense will prevail. If a pilot has had zero failures of the "basic" checkrides (pvt, inst., comm, atp), but busted his hot air balloon rating, he will probably be hired. If he failed his glider, seaplane, instrument, and atp checkrides, he probably should not be hired.

 

[mitsdriver]

Excellent points. However, hiring departments are not being told to accept or reject a certain number of busts, so as before, it will be a matter of judgement. The only change is, that judgement will now have to hold up to public scrutiny if a future accident occurs, as the airline won't be able to claim ignorance.

So I think common sense will prevail. If a pilot has had zero failures of the "basic" checkrides (pvt, inst., comm, atp), but busted his hot air balloon rating, he will probably be hired. If he failed his glider, seaplane, instrument, and atp checkrides, he probably should not be hired.

You're absolutely right. However, the public perception and the media won't have much of that common sense.

If, God forbid, there's another accident in which pilot error is an issue, and the media finds out that the said pilot had a failed checkride in a balloon once (out of otherwise exemplary record), they will have a field day with it. As unfair as that may be.

I can almost hear those cable TV newscasters now: "My God! They hired someone who couldn't even handle a hot air balloon and put him/her in charge of a multi-million dollar jet! How could someone let this happen?!?!"

 

[lionflyer]

You're absolutely right. However, the public perception and the media won't have much of that common sense.

If, God forbid, there's another accident in which pilot error is an issue, and the media finds out that the said pilot had a failed checkride in a balloon once (out of otherwise exemplary record), they will have a field day with it. As unfair as that may be.

I can almost hear those cable TV newscasters now: "My God! They hired someone who couldn't even handle a hot air balloon and put him/her in charge of a multi-million dollar jet! How could someone let this happen?!?!"

I know I would totally phuqup a hot air balloon.