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I don't want CDOs banned! I want screwing with circadian rhythm banned.

I bid for and fly stand-ups all the time, with no issue. The problem is when you have a reserve pilot called at 4 am and told they're on rest until a 2045 show time. Add in having commuted from a different time zone and you have trouble.

Just my $.02

-JP
 
Yes, I know, some people love CDO's, and some apparently have no trouble with them. For those of us who do, and know damn well that we can't adjust, let us refuse them.
 
If you're going to ban CDO's you might as well ban red-eyes and all third shift work in any safety sensitive occupation.

More stringent reserve requirements for people covering CDOs sure, but asking to ban them is rediculous. It's third shift work.
 
Yeah there is nothing wrong with cdo's if you are a night owl. I remember hearing about a crew that would go to the local strip club all night and come in the morning smelling like baby oil and perfume. We have CDO's that could be actual legal overnights. Each flight is overblocked by 15-30 minutes and you walk to the hotel from the airport.
 
If you're going to ban CDO's you might as well ban red-eyes and all third shift work in any safety sensitive occupation.

More stringent reserve requirements for people covering CDOs sure, but asking to ban them is rediculous. It's third shift work.

Pilots are just a bunch of crying pu$$ies!!!! period!!
 
That's what I'm saying. I would love to see some of these babies going through Navy Seal hell week. Pu$$ies.

So anyone who doesn't go through Hell Week is a wuss? Like all the Marines over in the Gulf? :rolleyes:
 
That's what I'm saying. I would love to see some of these babies going through Navy Seal hell week. Pu$$ies.

Wonder why former Navy Seals dont become airline pilots?

Cost:Benefit.
They're smart.

You want a person of that caliber flying your plane for 18 hours a day? Set the salary/benefits right and they'll come kicking the door in (literally:laugh:).
 
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Wonder why former Navy Seals dont become airline pilots?

Cost:Benefit.
They're smart.

You want a person of that caliber flying your plane for 18 hours a day? Set the salary/benefits right and they'll come kicking the door in (literally:laugh:).






We have a former Navy Seal working here, if that wasn't bad enough he even married my ex... :Dproof that not every one of them is that smart!
 
If you're going to ban CDO's you might as well ban red-eyes and all third shift work in any safety sensitive occupation.

More stringent reserve requirements for people covering CDOs sure, but asking to ban them is rediculous. It's third shift work.

That would mean banning ALL maintenance too. Could ya see that happening? I know that'll never happen.

I agree, stand-ups and reduced rest have got to go. Make a min rest period of 10 hrs and DON'T count the damn hotel van ride. Give a 30 minute post-flight/shutdown window that includes the van ride. Maintenance write-up then the time is added.
 

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