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Don't forget that we also have about 150 in a pool right now. Unfortunately it will be a while before we hire again. :( I hope I'm dead wrong about this prediction!
 
Possible furloughs in the fall if they can't get volunteers to leave. So no hiring, unless something big happens.
 
100-200 from someone in the know at the MDW base. This fall/winter will be ugly for everyone if the economy stays flat. I expect furloughs from just about everyone after the summer schedules get pulled down. Merry F'n Christmas.
 
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koko nw said:
His ignorant pie hole.
Disgusting how some folks get off on other peoples misery. Best of luck SWA
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Dude you have know idea of how much I want SWA to do well but I won't discount some information because I don't like it. I hope my source is wrong, and I mean it.
 
Lampshade your source is wrong.

The "furloughs" rumor is a gross exaggeration on our current level of staffing, which would be "overstaffed" according to many respectable sources. I can't remember where I saw it, but we're probably overstaffed by 300 or so pilots if you do the math.

In an airline with about 6000 pilots, that's not that big of a number, and when you aren't really losing any (or much) money, furloughs would be hard to justify. Also, our current contract has some flexibility as far as hard line block time (compared to a bunch of legacy carriers), and there are many methods of dealing with massive overstaffing that are easier for all than furloughs, so I don't think we need to worry about furloughs at SWA unless things get horribly bad.

I kinda wonder the motives behind the people who started this rumor... and it's not just flamebait on FI. I'll be optimistic and say they're just ignorant and misinformed.
 
Alcatraz said:
Lampshade your source is wrong.

The "furloughs" rumor is a gross exaggeration on our current level of staffing, which would be "overstaffed" according to many respectable sources. I can't remember where I saw it, but we're probably overstaffed by 300 or so pilots if you do the math.

In an airline with about 6000 pilots, that's not that big of a number, and when you aren't really losing any (or much) money, furloughs would be hard to justify. Also, our current contract has some flexibility as far as hard line block time (compared to a bunch of legacy carriers), and there are many methods of dealing with massive overstaffing that are easier for all than furloughs, so I don't think we need to worry about furloughs at SWA unless things get horribly bad.

I kinda wonder the motives behind the people who started this rumor... and it's not just flamebait on FI. I'll be optimistic and say they're just ignorant and misinformed.
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Well I hope you are right. The guy who told me said the same as being overstaffed by 300ish which isn't a problem for the summer. He had info on a possible schedule reduction that was being talked about for the fall which would he thought would require a furlough of around 100-200.
 
Alcatraz said:
Lampshade your source is wrong.

The "furloughs" rumor is a gross exaggeration on our current level of staffing, which would be "overstaffed" according to many respectable sources. I can't remember where I saw it, but we're probably overstaffed by 300 or so pilots if you do the math.

In an airline with about 6000 pilots, that's not that big of a number, and when you aren't really losing any (or much) money, furloughs would be hard to justify. Also, our current contract has some flexibility as far as hard line block time (compared to a bunch of legacy carriers), and there are many methods of dealing with massive overstaffing that are easier for all than furloughs, so I don't think we need to worry about furloughs at SWA unless things get horribly bad.

I kinda wonder the motives behind the people who started this rumor... and it's not just flamebait on FI. I'll be optimistic and say they're just ignorant and misinformed.
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That sounds a lot like what I heard before I got the axe at Alaska. Good luck.
 
Don't forget that we also have about 150 in a pool right now.
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I believe they were let go last year and told when hiring resumes they will have to re-interview... don't ask me about a source.
 
RJones said:
I believe they were let go last year and told when hiring resumes they will have to re-interview... don't ask me about a source.
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that is bad information. the poolies remain for 18 months and then will be let go.. it has not been 18 months yet.
 
when did this 18 months thing start? I was in the pool for 2 years and 2 months. I hope we don't pull the 'reinterview' crap but it wouldn't surprise me with some of the stuff going on around here.
 
The e-mail said they MIGHT have to reinterview, more likely just another background check conducted. If we don 't have another class for 2 more years, well..............
 
firstthird said:
when did this 18 months thing start? I was in the pool for 2 years and 2 months. I hope we don't pull the 'reinterview' crap but it wouldn't surprise me with some of the stuff going on around here.
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letter went out a couple weeks ago...but i'm not sure when the 18 months was supposed to start exactly.. not sure if it's from when we interviewed or when we got the letter.
 
Re-interview was the wrong word when I asked about this. It would be more of a reacquantance (sp) and another background check which could obviously be done at any time anyways. And yes, they could make us re-interview at any time anyways.
 
good to know.. i was hoping it would be a smile and a handshake type of deal...and a background check to make sure we weren't crashing planes or doing blow...
 
All it is is a backround check. It cost the company money to keep up the check per the rules. Therefore for formality sake they will have to "reinterview". You are still hired and if we ever have any more classes you will be in one.

I expect not for 3 years. Our training head stated if the economy continues to soften then they have a furlough plan in place. Apparently it won't be the normal "don't let the door hit you in the ass" type that the legacy's do. They will try and take care of them the best they can.

If it happens then Paul Emmens should be ashamed of himself and all of his age 65 bastards.
 
bmxandjets said:
good to know.. i was hoping it would be a smile and a handshake type of deal...and a background check to make sure we weren't crashing planes or doing blow...
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i assume you left out "knocking over liquor stores" since that would be okay?
 
Seems like only a few months ago I was telling you guys that SWA was more likely to furlough in '09 than start draining the pool. From what my buddy tells me, SWA won't be back up to 2008 seat levels until well into 2011 maybe even the start of 2012. I imagine SWA hiring will start in 2012. That's what my friend is saying anyway.
 
I don't think you'll see much of a reaction JetDude. If SWA grew by 5% (and that's a HUGE if) in '10, there wouldn't be a need for pilots (6000 pilots x .05 = 300 pilots). It looks like SWA is overmanned somewhere in the 500 range or so for pilots. So 5% growth in 2010 and 2011 would set the manning about right. Couple this with no retirements, and that's where the 2012 being the start of pool emptying comes in. No flame. Just facts.
 

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