NetJets not furloughing because of charter

[pilotyip]

cause you are nice

Why is it his duty to share boo with you? If you want to know what is happening on the inside, get hired. Otherwise, read it in the paper or wait for someone to post it on here....because you know they will.

Name calling on FI is so easy when most posters are able to hide who they are, that is why I elect not to hide my identity. Flylow made it sound as though he/she had information that would counter my original post. If that was the case, I just asking that he/she share that information. Unless of course he/she is in a position of trust within the union or management where he/she would have information but unable to share it at this time. FI is all about sharing information for the good of the pilot members. Civility in communications is what it is all about. BTW maybe it was the wording of my post that should have been different. Maybe this would have gotten a different response "Hey I just got a call from a NJ pilot who said there may be up to a 1,000 pilots lay offs coming, could there be any truth to this?

 

[CALRepublic]

Name calling on FI is so easy when most posters are able to hide who they are, that is why I elect not to hide my identity. Flylow made it sound as though he/she had information that would counter my original post. If that was the case, I just asking that he/she share that information. Unless of course he/she is in a position of trust within the union or management where he/she would have information but unable to share it at this time. FI is all about sharing information for the good of the pilot members. Civility in communications is what it is all about. BTW maybe it was the wording of my post that should have been different. Maybe this would have gotten a different response "Hey I just got a call from a NJ pilot who said there may be up to a 1,000 pilots lay offs coming, could there be any truth to this?

You don't work for NetJets but come here and spread BS, do you know how many people you're freaking out with that "1000" comment???...... then you go on and say "you guys can't handle the thrut"... do you expect the 1000 bottom guys to just not show up to work tomorrow and apply for unemployment???

Everyone is welcome to participate on any thread, but I have to ask:

1-what is your interest in this thread???
2- is your company out of harm's way that you have time to worry about ours???

 

[pilotyip]

The truth

You don't work for NetJets but come here and spread BS, do you know how many people you're freaking out with that "1000" comment???...... then you go on and say "you guys can't handle the thrut"... do you expect the 1000 bottom guys to just not show up to work tomorrow and apply for unemployment???

Everyone is welcome to participate on any thread, but I have to ask:

1-what is your interest in this thread???
2- is your company out of harm's way that you have time to worry about ours???

The truth I was referring to the "truth of the spoken word to me". So I post on FI to see what support it has, as I said to gunguy, you have to filter stuff out on FI. Looks like there is not much support for what this guy told me. But on FI we go through this entire chest puffing, less than civil communication, and name calling in the interest of what. Most of it done by people who hide behind a screen name. My interest is all of my friends working a NJ; I am concerned about their future. I am largely responsible for them getting the skills they needed to make the NJ move. I hired them, I trained them, and I mentored them and wrote letters of recommendations and made calls in their support. That is my interest. As far as time goes, I now have lots of it, being a contract employee.

 

[jppt2000]

You don't work for NetJets but come here and spread BS, do you know how many people you're freaking out with that "1000" comment???...... then you go on and say "you guys can't handle the thrut"... do you expect the 1000 bottom guys to just not show up to work tomorrow and apply for unemployment???

Everyone is welcome to participate on any thread, but I have to ask:

1-what is your interest in this thread???
2- is your company out of harm's way that you have time to worry about ours???

Simple answer:
1- Netjets hater
2- Self-proclaimed aviation expert

 

[pilotyip]

how about none of the above?

Simple answer:
1- Netjets hater
2- Self-proclaimed aviation expert

your thoughts only, BTW what defines an aviation expert? Avbug?

 

[captain dad]

Really good stuff is coming soon (days), that will put this whole thing to bed for a good long while. Stay tuned.

 

[JungleJett]

Show me where I used name calling? I will wait.....cue Jeopardy music. Wait...I will save you the trouble...I DIDN'T! Apology accepted.

Plus, I guess I missed you posting your name..what was it again?

 

[fly4funcrj]

Netjets is awesome.

 

[netjetwife]

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3) It opens a major can of worms with the pending NJA/NJI seniority list integration and how any furlough would be spread among the two groups.

I still expect and have recently heard more rumors about an enhanced retirement incentive package that would be offered to pilots closer to traditional retirement age. That would spread pilot force reductions over a wider area and blunt retraining costs. This is one rumor I really hope is true.

Your third point above is very true. It's easy to see why Mr. Santulli would want to avoid that if possible. The rumors sound logical to me and if that is your wish then I'll keep my fingers crossed for you, GSD...

 

[Pervis]

The current LOAs regarding integreation address the potential furlough issue. It is the understanding of the union that the VSL would be applied, using inverse seniority if the need to furlough arose. Due to fleet manning issues, that could create problems. Another reason the boss wants to avoid them all together.

 

[RNObased]

If you have the inside dope, it is your duty to share with us.

Yeah, that is exactly what we are going to do.

 

[gutshotdraw]

Your third point above is very true. It's easy to see why Mr. Santulli would want to avoid that if possible. The rumors sound logical to me and if that is your wish then I'll keep my fingers crossed for you, GSD...

I just hope the rumor is true because it would be the best thing for the company and the majority of the pilot group. I'm still a couple of decades away from retirement so the only change for me would be to move up the VSL a bit. Since I'm inside 500, it wouldn't affect me a whole lot. A retirement incentive package would spread pilot reductions over all the fleets and allow a few more junior guys to see the left seat a little bit sooner.

 

[gunfyter]

One Berkshire A share for every year of service?

 

[netjetwife]

GSD, I don't think one has to be near SS age to be interested in leaving one career position for another, but you have my apology if you heard a rocking chair in the background of my post....

I predict that the NJA/I pilots will be pleased with the results of the joint effort. I know that a lot of hard work and motivation to do the right thing went into the proposals. Hopefully, the pilots will participate in full measure and the objective will be met.

Fly4funcrj, the partnership between NJASAP and Management is amazing, especially when compared to other aviation companies. I've been told that these offers are unprecedented in the industry.

Gunfyter...dream on....we'll all post quietly while you sleep...

 

[RNObased]

I just hope the rumor is true because it would be the best thing for the company and the majority of the pilot group. I'm still a couple of decades away from retirement so the only change for me would be to move up the VSL a bit. Since I'm inside 500, it wouldn't affect me a whole lot. A retirement incentive package would spread pilot reductions over all the fleets and allow a few more junior guys to see the left seat a little bit sooner.

You know GSD, it would be easier to communicate with you if you accepted PM's I'm just saying.