Mesa to furlough 100 more pilots

[samballs]

Hey Hockey.....
Mesa pilots are not forced to sleep on planes. The trips to which you refer were night trips in and out of Vegas where in the middle of the trip they would have a three hour-ish break with no crew room. Not a stand up with out a hotel room as some of you idiots keep saying on this board. Got it. Simply a three hour-ish break like any other outstation. Are we clear? I wouldn't personally go to a hotel with anything less than about four hours as you loose at least an hour in the commute to and from. Did the trip suck, obviously. But this is the trip A west wanted us to fly so we flew it. There are legitimate things to call MESA out for, though not as many as there used to be with this new contract. There would have been even less if it weren't for the 418 but that's another topic.

If you're going to talk about an airline you don't work for do us all a favor and have your facts straight first. Welcome to my ignore list.

How can you defend MESA? Hopefully you won't be able to next year. Check your spelling.

 

[dooork]

How can you defend MESA? Hopefully you won't be able to next year. Check your spelling.

He's not. What are you saying?.....are you wishing Mesa pilots out of a job?....if so, I hope something horrible happens to you.

 

[Dubya]

Hey Hockey.....
Mesa pilots are not forced to sleep on planes. The trips to which you refer were night trips in and out of Vegas where in the middle of the trip they would have a three hour-ish break with no crew room. Not a stand up with out a hotel room as some of you idiots keep saying on this board. Got it. Simply a three hour-ish break like any other outstation. Are we clear? I wouldn't personally go to a hotel with anything less than about four hours as you loose at least an hour in the commute to and from. Did the trip suck, obviously. But this is the trip A west wanted us to fly so we flew it. There are legitimate things to call MESA out for, though not as many as there used to be with this new contract. There would have been even less if it weren't for the 418 but that's another topic.

If you're going to talk about an airline you don't work for do us all a favor and have your facts straight first. Welcome to my ignore list.

I've never really been able to tighten my hours either.

G.E.D. revoked.


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[DOVPILOT]

Hey Hockey.....
Mesa pilots are not forced to sleep on planes. The trips to which you refer were night trips in and out of Vegas where in the middle of the trip they would have a three hour-ish break with no crew room. Not a stand up with out a hotel room as some of you idiots keep saying on this board. Got it. Simply a three hour-ish break like any other outstation. Are we clear? I wouldn't personally go to a hotel with anything less than about four hours as you loose at least an hour in the commute to and from. Did the trip suck, obviously. But this is the trip A west wanted us to fly so we flew it. There are legitimate things to call MESA out for, though not as many as there used to be with this new contract. There would have been even less if it weren't for the 418 but that's another topic.

If you're going to talk about an airline you don't work for do us all a favor and have your facts straight first. Welcome to my ignore list.

What Fkng airline would schedule a 3 hour sit in the middle of the fricken night, MESA would and that's why they SUCK. I hope the 100 find better jobs!!!

 

[pilot772]

What Fkng airline would schedule a 3 hour sit in the middle of the fricken night, MESA would and that's why they SUCK. I hope the 100 find better jobs!!!

FedEx or UPS?

 

[Ezralite]

Mesa would be better if they had a name that fit their operation better. Like Cornhole Airlines.

 

[dooork]

Mesa would be better if they had a name that fit their operation better. Like Cornhole Airlines.

Huh,huh....like yeh.

 

[Hovernut]

FedEx or UPS?

At least they're getting paid well to do it, and they're privy to a comfy lounge and eatery during the ordeal!

Oh, and I think those Mesa trips only allowed the fellas doing them 9(?) hours of rest in domicile after they were done in the morning. I heard these guys regularly got short-cycled right back into a trip with little rest at home.

 

[Cloudroller]

Sorry, "I was just following orders" didn't work at Nuremburg...doesn't work at Republic...and won't work here.

The pilots are doing the bidding of a horrible, horrible man and must share the accountability.

I guess SWA pilots are the same. SWA has destroyed several airlines

 

[Cloudroller]

What Fkng airline would schedule a 3 hour sit in the middle of the fricken night, MESA would and that's why they SUCK. I hope the 100 find better jobs!!!

Fed Ex and UPS

 

[TapitLight]

The night flighing operation was somthing that was unique as far as 121 passenger operations are considered. Then, America West had a late night bank that departed from 1145-1230 am including many express flights as well as mainline flights. I am not defending the camping trips but don't think that everyone is completely aware of the unique scheduling that was required to support the midnight hub operation.

 

[BCpilot81]

Whatever you believe or think of Mesa, or anyone, These men and women all have responsiblities great and small to more important things than the pilot profession. My heart goes out to all of them and I hope they find something quickly.

 

[CX880]

According to Yahoo, the Chinese ops is supposed to come to an end for Mesa next week at a loss. They're going to have a surplus of 5 CRJ200s. Plus they lost a few airplanes to Delta last month. maybe more furloughs? Plus the judgement is supposed to come out by the end of the month.

 

[laserman2431]

I do not wish harm on anyone but I will not have sympathy either.

A year ago, I left a regional for a major airline job. After 10 months, I was on the street with no recall in sight. That's a sad story, but I don't expect anyone to feel sorry for me. I took a risk in hopes of getting something better. Then I lost. that's life. Time to move on.

If you're getting F'ed at Mesa now, you went there when everyone else was hiring. You probably could have done the AE 8 year FO plan. You went for the MESA quick Captain option. If some things had been different, you might be well on your way to Southwest by now. If it had gone down that way, would you be losing sleep for your buddies still in the right seat at Eagle?

On the other hand, I do feel bad for those guys at Midwest. That's a whole different story in my book.

 

[Metro752]

No, a lot of them went to Mesa with the Skywest Pilot Development Program mentality.

Do a year, or less at Mesa, and run off to Skywest.