Wilmington Cat 2's

[DC8CRIVER]

Is there any truth to the rumor that one of the ILN CAT II ILS's (22L?) is out of tolerance and may be decertified by the FAA during this fall's recertification inspections.

Also are all the ILS's privately owned and, if so, who maintains them?

Probably just bullshot rumors like I said, but thought someone here might know ...

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[DC-9er]

wouldn't be surprised if 22L/4R got shut down completely. We certainly don't need two runways any more.

 

[shooter]

FDC for 22L is due to the missed approach procedure. Have not heard anything about problems with the ILS being part of the reason for the FDC.

That being said I agree with DC9er, this airpark does not need two runways any more.

 

[nitefr8dog]

Is there any truth to the rumor that one of the ILN CAT II ILS's (22L?) is out of tolerance and may be decertified by the FAA during this fall's recertification inspections.

Also are all the ILS's privately owned and, if so, who maintains them?

Probably just bullshot rumors like I said, but thought someone here might know ...

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DHL ownes the airport, ILS's, buildings's etc.

 

[DC8CRIVER]

Thanks.

You are correct about the missed procedure. I've had clarification that the ILN VOR problems that have been around for a really loooong time are the problem. Or perhaps more correctly, the lack of money to fix the thing is the problem.

Safety - at (almost) any cost!

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[nitefr8dog]

Thanks.

You are correct about the missed procedure. I've had clarification that the ILN VOR problems that have been around for a really loooong time are the problem. Or perhaps more correctly, the lack of money to fix the thing is the problem.

Safety - at (almost) any cost!

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DHL does not own the VOR that still belongs to the FAA. The FAA has been slow to fix the VOR at times and yes that is probably do to money.

 

[Colonel Savage]

Is the private control tower still needed? We used the unicom freq long ago.

 

[shooter]

Is the private control tower still needed? We used the unicom freq long ago.

I think the FAA would have a hard time signing off the airport without the tower as long as DHL is still there. Dayton has always controlled the airspace through the tower in ILN as their eyes for takeoff and landings.

 

[Fly Astar Jets]

I think the FAA would have a hard time signing off the airport without the tower as long as DHL is still there. Dayton has always controlled the airspace through the tower in ILN as their eyes for takeoff and landings.

"Dayton", "control" and "airspace" in the same sentence? Thanks for the laugh Shooter.

 

[nitefr8dog]

Is the private control tower still needed? We used the unicom freq long ago.

I think there would be some issue with doing cat II ILS's over unicom. I would hate to do a autoland cat 3 and findout the aircraft in front of me was still on the runway.

 

[Colonel Savage]

We had the Cat II up and operating at the time. Dayton would clear us for the approaches (ILS 22/VOR 04), we must have cancelled IFR on the ground, but it's been so long ago I can't remember specificly what the procedures were.

 

[scarface]

You could also cancel in the air with landing assured, if I recall correctly.

 

[scarface]

Cancelling in the air avoided the possibility of a go around if the guy in front of you was slow to call clear; Dayton lost track of you about 400 ft. agl and you cancelled on Dayton. That was back in the 22/4 only runway that was 9000 feet long and 4 was VOR only. Believe it or not the system worked quite well.

 

[Colonel Savage]

Canceling in the air is OK if you're VFR, but on a Cat II down to mins, canceling on the ground after clearing the runway was the senario I was refering to.

 

[nitefr8dog]

Cancelling in the air avoided the possibility of a go around if the guy in front of you was slow to call clear; Dayton lost track of you about 400 ft. agl and you cancelled on Dayton. That was back in the 22/4 only runway that was 9000 feet long and 4 was VOR only. Believe it or not the system worked quite well.

"We" also had Emery land on top of us in a DC8 and rip the tail off of 908AX. Still seems like a bad situation in CAT II weather.