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Goodbye F-22 program. We hardly new ye.

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Are you sure that isn't a typo? How do you cancel a project that is already operational? Park brand new airplanes? Maybe they are talking about the JSF?

Not a typo at all...just like any advanced weapon system you need funding to constantly upgrade the avionics systems, hardware, weapons delivery capes, etc, etc. Not funding the F-22 for future upgrades is essentially putting a fork in it - just like it would be for any major military program that is just starting to really see its strengths come forward.

The F-22 is an exceptional jet that could really be a winner with the proper funding and support. Unfortunately I doubt that will happen with this administration.

And wasn't this thread about the F-22 in the first place? Who said anything about a C-130?
 
It's already started on the operational end too. Sonofabitch...... hooray for 5 hour months (if you're lucky).
Welcome to the Carter Administration.
 
And wasn't this thread about the F-22 in the first place? Who said anything about a C-130?

Come on man...this would not be a true FI thread without a thread creap....we were talking about $$ dispersement and it could go to aircraft that need some fixing fast...
 
Welcome to the Carter Administration.

Have you seen the proposed budget for next year?

Obama requested a sizable increase in the military budget for the next fiscal year. Both the service chiefs and the republican hawks are pleased with the overall numbers.

Don't let the truth get in your way.

It frightens me that you are allowed to vote and drive cars.
 
But think of how many AT-6's, Texan II's attack version, you could purchase for the price of one F-22. Besides there is no threat out there any more, never will be. We will only fly in low threat environments. Better yet lets bring back the P-47, and P-51 and have some real fly flying.

Yeah, because the Chinese F-10 slinging PL-12's is a negligible threat. Or maybe any variant of the SU-30 dragging long burn Alamo's. :rolleyes:
 
Yeah, because the Chinese F-10 slinging PL-12's is a negligible threat. Or maybe any variant of the SU-30 dragging long burn Alamo's. :rolleyes:

True...but he has a point. The majority of the conflicts we have fought or PLANNED in the past 15 years have needed many more CAS assets than Air Superiority assets. Everyone believes their role is the most important, but CAS/SOF/Airlift have been the major players in the recent conflicts.

That being said...we NEED Air superiority.....but not at the cost of other weapons systems.
 
Being facetious

Yip, if somebody told me that quote was from you, I'd have never believed it. There's no threat...until there is. Will we be ready?

???
I was pretenting I had defected to the "Peace and Love" party that now runs our country. However all that being said the F-22 is almost too expensive to risked in a battle. Even the late Gen Robin Olds thought the F-22 would absorb too much of the USAF budget to the determent of other programs. And as told over a beer he said "25 F-5's, the cost of one F-22, would take out any F-22, or force the F-22 to not fight and give up air superiority"
 
There's still, what, 187 in the inventory when all is said and done? I think we'll still be knowing ye for quite a while.
 

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