How Northwest took over Delta

[crj567]

The earmarks were in the "stimulus" package, not the budget. The man didn't even make an effort to control these earmarks-and we will all pay for this disaster.

This guy is just a big of a scumbag as all the rest of them.

-I've got your fries right here, Gen.... I took the liberty of including a little "special sauce."

-It truly is wonderful working for a company that knows how to make a profit-maybe you should find one of those to employ you, Gen.

 

[RedRum]

Don't forget to add your pay raise. Better bases and you still have a frozen pension.

I'm so tired of people like you.

Pay raise you said? Open up the contract and tell me how much of a pay raise I actually got. Management must laugh when they sit down at the table with a bunch of inexperienced pilot negotiators. They gave us the "great" pay and then took away a lot of the good benefits we had here at NWA.

Frozen pension? What frozen pension are you talking about? I was hired in 2000 and will get NOTHING!
There are close to 1500 fNWA pilots that do not receive one dime of frozen pension.

I hear a lot of rhetoric about how you Delta guys are pissed off at your retirees for taking the money and running. Why is this? They were exercising their contractual rights that YOU voted on and ratified. Don't sit here and tell me you aren't grateful for the bump in seniority you received when all those guys retired. What was the alternative? Would you have rather dealt with it the way NWA did? (The DB guys actually stayed with their frozen plan and junior pilots don't move up the list and got NOTHING but a DC plan?) I am grateful for the DC plan by the way,but it certainly isn't what I expected when I signed on. Too bad for me. I have moved along.

It's really funny how some people think these days. I hope I never have the pleasure of running in to you on the line. You are arrogant and uninformed.

 

[General Lee]

The earmarks were in the "stimulus" package, not the budget. The man didn't even make an effort to control these earmarks-and we will all pay for this disaster.

This guy is just a big of a scumbag as all the rest of them.

-I've got your fries right here, Gen.... I took the liberty of including a little "special sauce."

-It truly is wonderful working for a company that knows how to make a profit-maybe you should find one of those to employ you, Gen.

The budget for the year had 1/2 the earmarks compared to Bush's last one. That is a fact jack. Change is here. And, your manager has been informed about your special sauce deal. He will assign you more bathroom cleanings next. Don't chew the gum left in the urinals please. Also, our execs still say we will have a profitable 09. We'll see Mr. Fry man.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[castle bravo]

from TheStreet.com 03/04/09

"By contrast, Northwest has long been considered the most aggressive of airlines, known for sometimes confrontational labor relations and for a fierce response to competitive intrusions. In the late 1990s, when AirTran(AAI Quote - Cramer on AAI - Stock Picks) started to expand at its Atlanta hub, Delta seemed to look the other way, allowing AirTran to flourish. It is widely felt that Northwest would have used the weapons a hub airline possesses, such as scheduling, pricing, amenities and frequent flier loyalties to crush AirTran in its infancy."



If this is truly the case, then why the seemingly passive tolerance of Spirit in DTW? Sun Country in MSP? Where was the big hammer?

 

[castle bravo]

Actually, this financial mess started under the Clinton Administration for making housing loans feasible for those who shouldn't own homes...

And added more fuel to the fire by signing away the Glass/Stegall act.......

 

[Redmeat]

If this is truly the case, then why the seemingly passive tolerance of Spirit in DTW? Sun Country in MSP? Where was the big hammer?

Free rides to Florida.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

You have to allow competition on some level. NWA got it right with Spirit and Sun Country. DAL got it wrong with AAI. We let them get to big.

 

[castle bravo]

Free rides to Florida.

No, seriously.... If NWA mgmt is so fiercely defensive of it's hubs, then why the tolerance of these outfits???

 

[Monster Buck]

No, seriously.... If NWA mgmt is so fiercely defensive of it's hubs, then why the tolerance of these outfits???

Your kidding right? Have you looked at the shape of Sun Country in Msp and especially Spirit which almost ceases to exist in DTW?
Beating them down but not completely out is sometimes better, don't open the door for more, just keep them in check. Which as of right now is exactly what is happening.

You should check to see the hand NWA had in ATA, Independence and Midwest. I for one don't know of another Major that does a better job of protecting its turf.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Totally agree. I can see the start of that here in good old ATL too. Summer is going to be fun.

 

[castle bravo]

" I can see the start of that here in good old ATL too. "


Long overdue, apparently.