On NPR - What makes a good airline pilot

[ImbracableCrunk]

Talk of the Nation, March 3, 2009 · In January, pilot Chesley Sullenberger landed a US Airways flight safely on the Hudson River after a flock of birds disabled both engines. Everyone onboard survived. Since then, he has raised questions about the quality of training and support available to newer pilots.

Excellent technical program.

Check it out now, or on podcast later.

 

[AA717driver]

NPR is asking what makes a good airline pilot?

1.) Intense guilt over destroying the environment.

2.) Intense guilt over being 'rich'.

3.) Intense guilt over not wearing a uniform made from organic materials.



TC

 

[Max Powers]

NPR is asking what makes a good airline pilot?

1.) Intense guilt over destroying the environment.

2.) Intense guilt over being 'rich'.

3.) Intense guilt over not wearing a uniform made from organic materials.



TC

NPR won't be asking those questions....They will ask insightful, thoughtful and relevant questions, unlike Fox news which tells you how to think or tells you what you want to hear. Fox will do this in a very simple and easy format so you won't have to exercise your brain.

 

[vetrider]

Npr is generally very good, but I did notice that that self aggrandizing blowhard John Nance is a guest.

 

[ImbracableCrunk]

Npr is generally very good, but I did notice that that self aggrandizing blowhard John Nance is a guest.

Yeah, but it was a chance for you and me to call in and be heard.

 

[Amish RakeFight]

Yeah, but it was a chance for you and me to call in and be heard.

Just listened to it. Nothing I haven't heard before. Mostly for layman intellectuals. Some ex-mil/airline chick Jan Donatelli got on and plugged her congressional run. What a coincidence. I wonder if her call was pre-arranged "somehow."

 

[vetrider]

It may have been impractical, but I think Sully himself on the program would have been terrific. Npr is a good program, I just don't think to much of John Nance. Who knows, maybe he is a great guy and pilot, but I don't care for his blowhard public persona.

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

Disapointed NPR gave time to a MIL helo pilot and Corporate pilot.... off topic....

I was looking for more pilots to discuss their economic situation....

 

[Big Beer Belly]

NPR is asking what makes a good airline pilot?

1.) Intense guilt over destroying the environment.

2.) Intense guilt over being 'rich'.

3.) Intense guilt over not wearing a uniform made from organic materials.



TC

Most excellent!

Those wishing to destroy America will have to wait another day. Unfortunately, there are many lined up who are lazy and want a hand out. Perfect for Rez's fantasy world of the FAT, Gluttonous and Give-Me-Now wanting to confiscate from the hard-working, productive, honest citizenry of this nation!

BBB

 

[ImbracableCrunk]

I was really hoping for a thread that wouldn't be about politics.

NPR listenership has a higher level of education than just about any media outlet, so I wouldn't call them lazy.

BBB, did you listen to the program?

 

[AKMD80GUY]

I have flown with a lot of guys that were F/O's when Nance was a Captain here and not one had anything good to say about him

 

[Big Beer Belly]

NPR listenership has a higher level of education than just about any media outlet, so I wouldn't call them lazy.

BBB, did you listen to the program?

When you want to steal from those who are successful and give to those who have simply want a handout (all liberals), what exactly do you call it?

BBB

 

[jimcav]

I was really hoping for a thread that wouldn't be about politics.

NPR listenership has a higher level of education than just about any media outlet, so I wouldn't call them lazy.

BBB, did you listen to the program?

When I think of higher level of education like that of NPR listeners I think of eggheads. When I think of eggheads I think of intellectuals, who may be booksmart, but lack common sense. Btw Nance does write a good book.

 

[SkiFishFly]

I was really hoping for a thread that wouldn't be about politics.

NPR listenership has a higher level of education than just about any media outlet, so I wouldn't call them lazy.

BBB, did you listen to the program?

In my life I have met lots of complete idiots who "have a higher level of education". They are usually the ones who don't hesitate to mention just how smart they think they are...

 

[Thedude]

Ahh so much crap I have heard spewed on NPR. These self appointed acolytes try to "educated the masses" by showing only their viewpoint (and left leaning it definitely is) with half-assed, cobbled together information. These are usually the people that have advanced degrees but need a manual to change a diaper or a tire. Some much learning but no idea of how to apply it.



One thing I have leaned from NPR, if you speak slowly in a restricted cadence with a few well placed adjective, you must be an expert on that subject.

Even so, I am guilty of occasionally listening to NPR.

 

[Caveman]

I listen to NPR frequently so I can get an idea as to what the liberal elite are thinking. They are hardly paragons of neutrality. It isn't a politically neutral news organization and it definitely has a clear agenda. Juan Williams, Diane Reem, Cokie Roberts and Daniel Shore, etc are hardly moderates. Even though I generally enjoy the discussion on Reems show it definitely has a liberal slant. Shore is a senile idiot. Everybody raves about Lehrer too and while I like the guy he is also definitely left of center. Where's the conservative voice as a counterpoint? There isn't one. Just because the commentators are literate and usually civil doesn't make them neutral.

My other problem with NPR is they slurp at the public trough and without public funding they would be gone tomorrow. If they are so good why aren't they commercially viable?

OTOH, their pure entertainment shows are very good. I really enjoy listening to Echoes, Click and Clack, the old radio show reruns, and even Garrison Keelor (sp?). His politics suck, but I like his variety radio show.

 

[cal73cap]

It may have been impractical, but I think Sully himself on the program would have been terrific. Npr is a good program, I just don't think to much of John Nance. Who knows, maybe he is a great guy and pilot, but I don't care for his blowhard public persona.

Rumor has it that when Nance was at Braniff they banished him to the F.E. seat due to his inability to upgrade. Also heard the same about him when he was at Alaska.

 

[ATRCAPT]

Not to hijack the thread, but Nance is a total tool. He's extremely arrogant, and is books blow. His plots are all over the place.

 

[glasspilot1]

Click and Clack, the Tappet brothers rule!

 

[ImbracableCrunk]

Where's the conservative voice as a counterpoint? There isn't one.

This was just on. It was a pretty good show.
Leadership and Future of the GOP

Republican National Committee Chair Michael Steele traded barbs with talk show host Rush Limbaugh. The latest on who is leading the GOP and internal strife within the party.
Guests

David Keene, chairman of the American Conservative Union and managing associate with Carmen Group, a D.C.-based governmental-affairs firm

Byron York, chief political correspondent, "Washington Examiner" and author of "The Vast Left Wing Conspiracy"

David Frum, is a resident fellow, American Enterprise Institute; author of "Comeback: Conservatism That Can Win Again", and co-author of "An End to Evil: What's Next in the War on Terror;" former speechwriter and special assistant to President George W. Bush (2001-02).

Richard Viguerie, author of "Conservatives Betrayed: How George W. Bush and Other Big Government Republicans Hijacked the Conservative Cause."

Saul Anuzis, is former chairman of the Michigan Republican Party. He was a recent candidate for the National Republican National Committee chair and serves as co-anchor of the RNC transition team. He regularly contributes to conservative blogs.

My other problem with NPR is they slurp at the public trough and without public funding they would be gone tomorrow. If they are so good why aren't they commercially viable?

From Wiki: About 2% of NPR's funding comes from bidding on government grants and programs, chiefly the Corporation for Public Broadcasting; the remainder comes from member station dues, foundation grants, and corporate underwriting.

That was $2.4M in 2005.

Click and Clack do rule.

 

[ImbracableCrunk]

Where's the conservative voice as a counterpoint? There isn't one.

This was just on Diane Rehm today. It was a pretty good show.
Leadership and Future of the GOP

Republican National Committee Chair Michael Steele traded barbs with talk show host Rush Limbaugh. The latest on who is leading the GOP and internal strife within the party.
Guests

David Keene, chairman of the American Conservative Union and managing associate with Carmen Group, a D.C.-based governmental-affairs firm

Byron York, chief political correspondent, "Washington Examiner" and author of "The Vast Left Wing Conspiracy"

David Frum, is a resident fellow, American Enterprise Institute; author of "Comeback: Conservatism That Can Win Again", and co-author of "An End to Evil: What's Next in the War on Terror;" former speechwriter and special assistant to President George W. Bush (2001-02).

Richard Viguerie, author of "Conservatives Betrayed: How George W. Bush and Other Big Government Republicans Hijacked the Conservative Cause."

Saul Anuzis, is former chairman of the Michigan Republican Party. He was a recent candidate for the National Republican National Committee chair and serves as co-anchor of the RNC transition team. He regularly contributes to conservative blogs.

My other problem with NPR is they slurp at the public trough and without public funding they would be gone tomorrow. If they are so good why aren't they commercially viable?

From Wiki: About 2% of NPR's funding comes from bidding on government grants and programs, chiefly the Corporation for Public Broadcasting; the remainder comes from member station dues, foundation grants, and corporate underwriting.

That was $2.4M in 2005.

Click and Clack do rule.

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

Your reply Caveman? I would suspect that NPR isn't commecially viable like the EIB, because they aren't entertainment.......

 

[Trout]

also from the wiki page....

'63% of NPR experts from think tanks came from right-leaning organizations while only 37% came from left-leaning organizations'

 

[Tweaker]

Your reply Caveman? I would suspect that NPR isn't commecially viable like the EIB, because they aren't entertainment.......

Unintentional understatement of 2009 award nomination above!

They ain't entertainment, they ain't factually honest, they ain't able to survive in the marketplace without artificial public graft, & they ain't fair nor balanced.

They are simply feel good liberal propogandists of the highest order. I bet it is as much "fun" to listen to as Goebel's greatest hits. Sieg Heil beeotches!

 

[Amish RakeFight]

Unintentional understatement of 2009 award nomination above!

They ain't entertainment, they ain't factually honest, they ain't able to survive in the marketplace without artificial public graft, & they ain't fair nor balanced.

They are simply feel good liberal propogandists of the highest order. I bet it is as much "fun" to listen to as Goebel's greatest hits. Sieg Heil beeotches!

NPR has way more intergrity than Rush's program by a mile. I happen to enjoy most of thier programming and find it for the most part fair and factual with lots of educational programming. It's not for those with short attention spans like the Rush listeners who need his verbal sugar fix and an aggressive speaker. NPR is quite tranquil, well spoken and educational in comparison.

 

[HalinTexas]

The government should not be funding broadcasting no matter how little. This includes everything but AFN.

There two ways to determine the polical bent of a broadcasting or print medium. One, the stories they chose to report, and two, how they report them.

Unfortunately, they all seem to recycle each others' stories. We never get anything new and it's always blown out of proportion.

 

[Wanderlust]

An interesting article on the only fair and balanced news outlet in America:

http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1067

 

[waka]

The government should not be funding broadcasting no matter how little. This includes everything but AFN.

There two ways to determine the polical bent of a broadcasting or print medium. One, the stories they chose to report, and two, how they report them.

Unfortunately, they all seem to recycle each others' stories. We never get anything new and it's always blown out of proportion.

The government should absolutely fund public broadcasting.......even more so than they are now. Even though public broadcasting is underwritten and funded partially by endowments, it is still far more free of commercial influence than for-profit broadcasting. News isn't news unless it is completely free from the constraints of profit motive, period.

 

[waka]

I listen to NPR frequently so I can get an idea as to what the liberal elite are thinking. They are hardly paragons of neutrality. It isn't a politically neutral news organization and it definitely has a clear agenda. Juan Williams, Diane Reem, Cokie Roberts and Daniel Shore, etc are hardly moderates. Even though I generally enjoy the discussion on Reems show it definitely has a liberal slant. Shore is a senile idiot. Everybody raves about Lehrer too and while I like the guy he is also definitely left of center. Where's the conservative voice as a counterpoint? There isn't one. Just because the commentators are literate and usually civil doesn't make them neutral.

You're wrong. Cokie Roberts is very conservative. Although, I can see how she would be considered a liberal by right wing extremists.

My other problem with NPR is they slurp at the public trough and without public funding they would be gone tomorrow. If they are so good why aren't they commercially viable?

Unintentional understatement of 2009 award nomination above!

They ain't entertainment, they ain't factually honest, they ain't able to survive in the marketplace without artificial public graft, & they ain't fair nor balanced.

Total horse$hit......both of you.

A, only 2 to 3% of NPR's funding comes from tax dollars. The majority of funding comes through foundation grants, corporate underwriting and member station dues (that comes from listener support.)

B. Commercial viability has absolutely nothing to do with sound and objective news reporting. Fox News has proven that time and again.

As for the rest of you, sure, there are some slightly liberal show hosts that get airtime on NPR. However, NPR is, by far, the most objective vehicle for broadcast news in the USA.

 

[The Drizzle]

As for the rest of you, sure, there are some slightly liberal show hosts that get airtime on NPR. However, NPR is, by far, the most objective vehicle for broadcast news in the USA.

You are assuming people want an objective vehicle for news in the USA.