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SWA is going to be here in two years no matter what happens with AAI.
Now that SWA does not have a supreme hedge position, the costs on like routes will be quite similar.
 
SWA is going to be here in two years no matter what happens with AAI.
Now that SWA does not have a supreme hedge position, the costs on like routes will be quite similar.

Airtran is the main course for DAL in 2010. It shouldn't take too long to finish them off.
SWA however, is a different story.
DAL and SWA will live semi-"peacefully" as no one wants to see a blood bath. The two will agree to co-exsist in the future. Stay on your side of the fence and peace will be possible....
 
Don't forget to add your pay raise. Better bases and you still have a frozen pension.

Pay Raise? If you are proud of that little thing Y'all call a pay raise, you should be embarrassed. Better bases? They all suck equally. Frozen Pension?, now let me talk real SSSLLLOOOWWWW so you get it, only about 20% of NWA will receive a frozen pension even worth mentioning.

I am at 13 years and will receive, sit down and get ready, a whopping 1785.00/month. Holy crap, Vegas here I come.

Don't be so frickin simple.
 
Airtran is the main course for DAL in 2010. It shouldn't take too long to finish them off.
SWA however, is a different story.
DAL and SWA will live semi-"peacefully" as no one wants to see a blood bath. The two will agree to co-exsist in the future. Stay on your side of the fence and peace will be possible....

Correct. And it has been stated as such. We will run rational competition with each other.

Both have done a SWORT analysis, and both can get killed by the other. Kind of like MAD.
 
Excellent article.....

I have been telling people this would happen since the meger was first speculated on. DAL is gone now, and this new airline (800 lb gorilla) will work hard to piss off customers and passengers alike. It is truly a shame. DAL used to be a great company.

The new DAL (NWA) still has absolutely no idea how the traveling public thinks-there is no brand loalty anymore. You piss enough people off, and they will give you a collective kick to the nuts. Many here scoffed my past assertions which were all validated by this article.

Let me be clear in what I am asserting now: DAL (NWA) will now try and destroy AirTran. If they succeed, DAL will get SWA into Atlanta faster than you can drop a hot coal. At that point, DAL (NWA) will get the living hell kicked out of it, and will soon be bankrupt again. -Doubt me again? Go ahead if you wish-Gen., but time will prove me correct again.

I think it's great how the author ended the article. General Lee better watch his pompus butt. Apparently, he doesn't understand how big a bunch of scumbags used to run NWA. That brass ring the General has been chasing will suddenly morph into brass knuckes, indeed......

-Turn the other cheek, Gen.... Steenland's got a little somthin' fo' yo' punk ass!


Steenland? Huh? I think he is now on the board, not in management anymore. But, you KNEW that....your expertise is overwhelming... Talk about pompous---at least know what you are talking about.

And, we are going to try to smash Airtran, but not wipe it away. We know the stakes, and the ex NWA guys have done a better job keeping the LCCs at bay. They now pretty much run the boat here (even though a Delta exec now runs NWA until SOC). Regardless, I will still do my new favorite route (Forteleza and Recife, Brazil) and ENJOY it. Bye now.


Bye Bye--General Lee
 
Pay Raise? If you are proud of that little thing Y'all call a pay raise, you should be embarrassed. Better bases? They all suck equally. Frozen Pension?, now let me talk real SSSLLLOOOWWWW so you get it, only about 20% of NWA will receive a frozen pension even worth mentioning.

I am at 13 years and will receive, sit down and get ready, a whopping 1785.00/month. Holy crap, Vegas here I come.

Don't be so frickin simple.

Come on now, you did get a pay raise, from the pittance you negotiated to allow those senior guys to keep their bigger frozen pensions. You did it to yourselves, and now you got a raise back to something better. As far as how much we all got---when you negotiate during $140 a barrel oil, it is called bad timing. IF you knew what was going to happen (over $100 less per barrel for gas and a depression looming) why didn't you tell everyone on CNBC? You are a genius DC9 Captain, so you know everything. And, your whopping $1700 something a month might be a lot better than the rest of us who left a lot of it in 401Ks. You might be a RICH DC9 Captain when you retire with an extra $1700 a month....


Bye Bye--General Lee
 
SWA is going to be here in two years no matter what happens with AAI.
Now that SWA does not have a supreme hedge position, the costs on like routes will be quite similar.
Now that SWA pays the same for Jet A as Airtran, Airtran actually has about a 10% total CASM advantage over SWA. I don't know why Delta would want to play games with Airtran again. We saw where that got them the first time. They are not going to out low-cost the lowest cost LCC.

Delta should focus on building the strongest international system in the world and building monopolies on some of those routes (like their new routes to Africa). That is where their strength is. Delta will have better luck putting United or USAirways out of business than Airtran. Like the article said, Delta should have put Airtran out of business in the late 1990's. It is a little too late and expensive now.
 
Now that SWA pays the same for Jet A as Airtran, Airtran actually has about a 10% total CASM advantage over SWA. I don't know why Delta would want to play games with Airtran again. We saw where that got them the first time. They are not going to out low-cost the lowest cost LCC.

Delta should focus on building the strongest international system in the world and building monopolies on some of those routes (like their new routes to Africa). That is where their strength is. Delta will have better luck putting United or USAirways out of business than Airtran. Like the article said, Delta should have put Airtran out of business in the late 1990's. It is a little too late and expensive now.

Delta wants to run ATL at all costs, and will put DC9s on 717 routes instead of 50 seaters that always lose. Since the DC9s are owned outright, it should make it feasible. Sure, the 717s are nicer and have XM radio, but the DC9s have something that the 717s don't---a non-autothrottle out of sync sound for the engines that will lull everyone to sleep in woderful dreamland. And if NWAREDTAIL is flying it, you can guarantee that everyone will be lulled asleep, just like reading his posts here on FI.


Bye Bye--General Lee
 
Pay Raise? If you are proud of that little thing Y'all call a pay raise, you should be embarrassed. Better bases? They all suck equally. Frozen Pension?, now let me talk real SSSLLLOOOWWWW so you get it, only about 20% of NWA will receive a frozen pension even worth mentioning.

I am at 13 years and will receive, sit down and get ready, a whopping 1785.00/month. Holy crap, Vegas here I come.

Don't be so frickin simple.

I'm not proud of the pay raise, but you guys got a big bump. Let me talk real slow for you, about 0 guys at DAL have what you are talking about (1785 a month).

A NWA 320CA now can be 7ER CA. At NWA that was all he could hold.

So if really think about it ya'll got more. So stop your bitching.
 
And, we are going to try to smash Airtran, but not wipe it away. We know the stakes, and the ex NWA guys have done a better job keeping the LCCs at bay. They now pretty much run the boat here (even though a Delta exec now runs NWA until SOC). Regardless, I will still do my new favorite route (Forteleza and Recife, Brazil) and ENJOY it. Bye now.


Bye Bye--General Lee

Why not wipe it away? Don't knock a BHM layover until you try it. :)
 

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