Airtran's cash position dwindling quickly!

[redflyer65]

Where's Lear70 when you need him?

 

[Eagle757shark]

I am for giving the man a chance. I do have my limits though. You seem to want to put on blinders and peek out in 4 years and see how he did. Is that a smart approach?

The bankruptcy judges that threw out pensions, and the National Mediation Board got their marching orders from the previous administration, thank you!
So if you know what is going to happen over the next 4 years, enlighten us! Hell, tell me what the damn lottery numbers are going to be so I can retire tomorrow. To say the man is going to make things worse and he hasn't even been in office a month is a little naive on your part! You are speaking from both ends! ( I know you didn't make the original statement, but now you are validating the statement made by Crj567 by acting like you DO know what is going to happen)! Maybe you need to run for congress or the presidency, if you have such foresight!

I see you fly or have flown the C-17. Do not be mistaken. I love my country and I fought for her in the United States Air Force and I loved every moment of it (glad to have served, great experience, great people). I don't think this president is trying to make this country a socialist country (you brought up the word above). He has his ideas and in a democracy the american citizens cast their votes! (NO, I'm not drinking very sober...thank you)

 

[Benhuntn]

Why would anyone opposed to Obama's polices give him a chance? Is that what the left did for Bush? Or is the right being nice and giving in to Obama "change"? I "hope" not!

 

[Benhuntn]

term Limits!

 

[Eagle757shark]

This year will be an interesting year for AirTran. If fuel stays close to where it is today, this will probable be a good year for AirTran. They have started recalling the 169 pilots furloughed and upgrades have begun again. Considering all that is going on in our economy, I just pray the company will do well this year. Having been furloughed in my career, I don't wish that on anyone. It is tough out there.

 

[Mamma]

The bankruptcy judges that threw out pensions, and the National Mediation Board got their marching orders from the previous administration, thank you! Judges do not get marching orders from an administration. Its called Separation of Powers. Congress passes law.
So if you know what is going to happen over the next 4 years, enlighten us! Never said I knew what would happen but I have an opinion on how things are handled. Hell, tell me what the damn lottery numbers are going to be so I can retire tomorrow. 4-9-12-34-23-11 and 44 for the powerball. I am sure of these! To say the man is going to make things worse and he hasn't even been in office a month is a little naive on your part! No it is not. Trusting him blindly is naive on your part. You are speaking from both ends! I believe the term is speaking from both sides of your mouth...not both ends. ( I know you didn't make the original statement, but now you are validating the statement made by Crj567 by acting like you DO know what is going to happen)! You should take a class in reading comprehension. I have no idea where you are getting this idea. Maybe you need to run for congress or the presidency, if you have such foresight! Foresight does not get one elected.

I see you fly or have flown the C-17, don't be mistaken. Mistaken about what? I love my country and I fought for her in the United States Air Force and I loved every moment of it (glad to have served, great experience, great people). Thank you! I don't think this president is trying to make this country a socialist country (you brought up the word above). I guess I did. What I meant was some of his policies are socialist and I think there are better ways to go about fixing problems we face. He has his ideas and in a democracy the american citizens cast their votes! Yes they did. So, since the citizens voted for Bush should we have all just shut up and colored when he was trying to work his agenda? (NO, I'm not drinking very sober...thank you) That is too bad. It would have been a good excuse.

Dude,
I am going to give you the clue back. What are you talking about in your rants? Did you even read what I wrote???

 

[waka]

No one is safe in this economy-Obama will only make it far worse.

Only an idiot thinks that they can predict the economy based on what is spoon-fed to them by right wing talk radio and bloggers.

 

[Max Powers]

Where Bush did a great job is protecting us from another major terrorist attack. That was his #1 priority without question.

I only hope Obama can do as good of a job. If the economy is struggling now, throw in another 9/11 and see where we end up. Good luck to us all.

You have to be joking!!!!!!! Bush destroyed any hope we had in the near term of putting a lid on Muslim extremists. He enraged even the moderate Muslims of the world with his ignorant policies. Now we have Iraq, which used to be a great counter to Iran, in complete disarray. The only thing keeping the Iraqi people from killing themselves are miles and miles of walls keeping different feuding religions/tribes apart.

Obama: "we have an outstretched hand to Muslim countries and will gladly take yours as long as you unclench your fist." That's called being a realist and fixing problem.

 

[gt1900]

Its kinda funny how people forget that we never really had to deal with Iran because of Iraq. Having a strong Iraq that hated Iran was really a pretty good thing. Now, we have an Iraq that could never stand up to Iran, and Iran is building nukes.... IMO, Ill take Sadam back any day. At least then we don't have to worry about a nulcear Iran...

 

[Ty Webb]

Talk about thread creep!

From AirTran to Eye-ran . . . . talk about thread creep. No wonder I don't spend much time here anymore.


2008 was the first unprofitable year since 1999. The sky is not falling. AirTran will be in a solid position for the next few quarters. If oil stays low, we'll be around for a while.

If it shoots back up over $120., look for a trip thru Chapt 11.

TW

 

[scarlet]

Yeah the new bill

Millions for new ATV trails????
Millions to Porn industry???
Water Park for Miami???

Great way to help AMERICANS
OBAMA=Just like the rest of them, now has to pay back all that money !

Airtran loses 100 million and DL and UA lose 1.2 BILLION = it is called COOKING the BOOKS. How many years now has Delta and others lose BILLIONS and still in BUSINESS? It does have to make you wonder?

 

[starvingredtail]

My apologies. From what you wrote previously it seemed you had no idea what was going on and that you were completely ignorant of what went on over the last eight years. In fact, you called anyone who did not agree with you "naive." But, since you say you don't need a clue, I retract the one I gave you. My mistake.

Mama,
You dont post often but when you do its right on!

 

[Eagle757shark]

From AirTran to Eye-ran . . . . talk about thread creep. No wonder I don't spend much time here anymore.


2008 was the first unprofitable year since 1999. The sky is not falling. AirTran will be in a solid position for the next few quarters. If oil stays low, we'll be around for a while.

If it shoots back up over $120., look for a trip thru Chapt 11.

TW

Hey Ty, welcome back! I hope we don't see oil spike back up. You may see more than one airline go into bankruptcy if oil gets back to where it was last summer. Oil closed today 1/28/09 around $42 dollars a barrel. If oil could stay around $42 dollars +/- a few bucks, I believe the airlines have positioned themselves pretty good for 2009. Lets cross our fingers and a few toes. Would like to see guys get back to work this year. (and a new contract too)

 

[rtwo]

Eagle, while you and your fellow socialists are crossing your fingers and toes for low oil prices lets hope good American investors are allowed to drill and produce the domestic oil we need.

 

[qxdash8]

Eagle, while you and your fellow socialists are crossing your fingers and toes for low oil prices lets hope good American investors are allowed to drill and produce the domestic oil we need.

Oil, by definition, is short term. While I agree that we need to drill for more oil domestically - it will NOT last forever. What good American investors should be doing is making the US the world leader in exporting renewable energy technologies.

I'm sure this has something to do with AirTran's cash position - I'm just not sure how....

 

[Captainzero1]

Eagle757Shark, save your breath. In a previous life I use to fly around the rich and famous doing charter. A lot of these guys on these boards think they are going to someday be worth millions if only the gov'ment would get off their backs and out of their lives. 99% of the people we flew were die hard republicans and let me tell you, they do not give one iota about the average joe. You are not in their class and never will be, but many on these board think they will someday. The country was run into the ground economically, our civil liberities were infringed upon and you have guys come on here worrying about how tax cuts will affect them. I will close by paraphrasing Gatsby, the rich are not like you and me. They are worse.

 

[maxblast72]

2008 was the first unprofitable year since 1999. The sky is not falling. AirTran will be in a solid position for the next few quarters. If oil stays low, we'll be around for a while.

If it shoots back up over $120., look for a trip thru Chapt 11.

TW

Spot on Ty. With Jet A below $2/gallon, Q4 2008 won't be the last quarter where we post a $50 operating profit.

And with the way the world ecomony is cruising right now, hard to see oil demand going up anytime soon. Lets just hope the supply side stays relatively stable or that Israel doesn't try to wipe Iran off the map until all their oil is pumped out of the ground.

 

[rtwo]

Oil, by definition, is short term. Not a definition I was able to find in any dictionary.

While I agree that we need to drill for more oil domestically - it will NOT last forever. Really? How do you know that? How long will it last?

What good American investors should be doing is making the US the world leader in exporting renewable energy technologies. You should be free to invest in solar and wind powered jets and cars but please don't force me to.

I'm sure this has something to do with AirTran's cash position - I'm just not sure how....

I'd much rather be free than rich.

 

[rtwo]

Zero,

Not sure if you were talking about me but I' not worried about being rich, I just want to be free. Free to participate in government retirement insurance or not to participate. I would like to be free to buy a car that uses as much or little gasoline as I chose.

I want you to be free too. Free to live in a commune if you chose. Free to believe that the oceans are rising. Free to not eat red meat. Free to use only wind energy. Free to send your glass and plastic garbage to the dumb in seperate truck. Free to not associate with evil rich people.

 

[Eagle757shark]

Eagle, while you and your fellow socialists are crossing your fingers and toes for low oil prices lets hope good American investors are allowed to drill and produce the domestic oil we need.

You sir are out of line! I'm no socialist and have never called anyone else on this board a socialist. Because I said that I was willing to give the man a chance, I'm a socialist? I'm a combat veteran that loves this country! You talk about freedom, but what have you done for freedom? I have not stated rather I'm a Republican or a Democrat and that is not important. I'm an american that believes in a democracy. In this country we have the freedom of choice.
Poster Mamma and I had a very spirited debate above. I admire his passion and respect his opinion. Through private email, we had the opportunity to have a good discussion.
I personally am willing to take a wait and see approach of this new administration. I give no politican a free pass, but the man has only been in office one week. I will tell you though I'm tired of watching my profession go down hill. I'm tired of watching management destroy collective bargaining agreements and changing the rules. Pensions have been lost, wages have been lost, and benefits have been lost in my industry. Instead of pilots fighting each other, we need to find common ground and fight for our profession. So please take your unfounded comments and take them somewhere else! Thank you!

Gentlemen, I apologize for the personal attacks on this thread. This thread is supposed to be about AirTran's 4th quarter performance. Hopefully we can get back on point!