SWA Pilot on paid leave pending alcohol investigation

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just a bunch of SWA wanna-be's who are salivating at the idea of a SWA pilot walking away in cuffs.

sad sad

How do so many of you guys think that everyone with a pilot's license wants to work there? It just ain't so guys.

PIPE

 

[ghostrider64]

Under what authority did they give him a BAT? Was he in the cockpit?

More to the story to be sure.

 

[Amish RakeFight]

Under what authority did they give him a BAT? Was he in the cockpit?

More to the story to be sure.

Crew member puts on uniform and meets shuttle.

Crew member enters terminal and proceeds to advance through security.

Crew member begins to head to his gate.

Crew member is approached by a passenger, asking whether he was drunk.

Passenger did not confront the pilot until he realized that the pilot was heading to his (PAX) gate.

Crew member says nothing to passenger. Nothing. Not one word.

Crew member immediately walks off in a fast pace and enters the mens room.

In mens room, crew member calls in sick and changes into street clothes.

Crew member is then accosted by the police.

Crew member explains that he partied hard the night before and called in sick, reliveing him of any occupational duties.

Crew member never boarded the plane. Never made any comments to the confrontational passenger.

He is off the clock and not on the schedule anymore and thus, not subject to blood or breath tests.

Had the police accosted him in uniform immeidately after the passengers suspicion, the headlines would be a lot different.

 

[PurpleInMEM]

Cops lie, but you can't lie to them.

Never say anything to the heat, whether it's a traffic stop or accusation of alcohol use prior to flying. The only word the jack-booted, government thugs should ever hear out of your alcohol laden mouth is "lawyer." Oh and if they ask if you "understand your rights as they've been read to you" (some states require the question), the answer is "no."

Too many snitches and badged bullies with guns out there. Your buzz needs to stay on the DL unfortunately. The Nanny state is upon us.

 

[Benhuntn]

You cop haters have all been trained well in HS and college. The goods guys are the bad guys. I hope no one ever breaks into your house. You wold be on your own. Surely you wouldn't call a liar cop to help defend you. BIGOTS!!!!!!

 

[ultrarunner]

.. I hope no one ever breaks into your house. You wold be on your own...

I'd prefer it that way!

When the cops arrive, I could simply ask them who the heck I gotta talk to about getting this guys brains cleaned off my wall!

Nuf said...

 

[pipe]

You cop haters have all been trained well in HS and college. The goods guys are the bad guys. I hope no one ever breaks into your house. You wold be on your own. Surely you wouldn't call a liar cop to help defend you. BIGOTS!!!!!!

Everyone think back to your grade school / high school years. Now, for those of you who still know what's going on where you grew up, who do you know that became a cop?

Nuff said.

PIPE

 

[Amish RakeFight]

Everyone think back to your grade school / high school years. Now, for those of you who still know what's going on where you grew up, who do you know that became a cop?

Nuff said.

PIPE

A good friend I had through H.S. was set on becoming a NYPD officer. His dad was a fed and all he used to talk about was how much he hated each and every minority and that when he became a cop he was gonna show and teach these <insert racial slur> a lesson. Once he turned 21, he got his gun and was an officer.

To be fair, he gave me a PBA card and it got me out of a LOT of trouble. I wont go into specifics, but lets just say at one point, I was pulled out of my car and brought into the precinct. They called my buddy up at his prcinct (very embarrassing for him) and vouched for me, telling thewm to go lenient. Long story short, I ended up going home with no charges. The PBA card has come in handy on more than one occassion.

Anyway, this racist friend of mine upheld the law according to his own personal beliefs of people. He had it in for minorities and especially Spanish and Black folks. He eventually left the NYPD and became a NYFD firefighter.

 

[get2flyin]

A good friend I had through H.S. was set on becoming a NYPD officer. His dad was a fed and all he used to talk about was how much he hated each and every minority and that when he became a cop he was gonna show and teach these <insert racial slur> a lesson. Once he turned 21, he got his gun and was an officer.

To be fair, he gave me a PBA card and it got me out of a LOT of trouble. I wont go into specifics, but lets just say at one point, I was pulled out of my car and brought into the precinct. They called my buddy up at his prcinct (very embarrassing for him) and vouched for me, telling thewm to go lenient. Long story short, I ended up going home with no charges. The PBA card has come in handy on more than one occassion.

Anyway, this racist friend of mine upheld the law according to his own personal beliefs of people. He had it in for minorities and especially Spanish and Black folks. He eventually left the NYPD and became a NYFD firefighter.

That is such a heart warming story. Thank you for sharing.

 

[waka]

I dont know whats worse, the breathalyser or watching MSNBC.

Worse is watching Fox News.

 

[Amish RakeFight]

That is such a heart warming story. Thank you for sharing.

The NYPD is pretty corrupt. Let me tell you. What I related was a personal anecdote. If you comb through our local papers, there's no shortage of police doing all sorts of illegal things, both on the job and off. Not only have there been media accounts substantiated by IAB, but I've witnessed and experienced it first hand as well, growing up.

It is what it is. As they say.

There's also something called the Blue Code of Silence. That's for another thread. It's quite common to "testi-lie" in court to back up a partner or for a partner to back you up on an account.

 

[Britpilot]

The NYPD is pretty corrupt. Let me tell you. What I related was a personal anecdote. If you comb through our local papers, there's no shortage of police doing all sorts of illegal things, both on the job and off. Not only have there been media accounts substantiated by IAB, but I've witnessed and experienced it first hand as well, growing up.

It is what it is. As they say.

There's also something called the Blue Code of Silence. That's for another thread. It's quite common to "testi-lie" in court to back up a partner or for a partner to back you up on an account.

Ahh, you've been watching your collection of "Third Watch" again.

 

[Amish RakeFight]

Ahh, you've been watching your collection of "Third Watch" again.

I've never seen the show but did meet an actor from the show, Michael Beach once.

If you're curious, I'll link several articles over just the past couple of years where NYPD oficers were arrested and fired or incarcerated for violating civil liberties or corruption.

 

[Lequip]

Any new developments regarding the drunk SWA pilot @ CMH?

 

[GlobeIII]

I think he might have a CMH overnight next week? Hopefully he only parties hard..and not TOO HARD!:beer:

 

[Flying Biker]

So this went from a SWA pilot being accused of being drunk to cop bashing when it was actually the cop that stated that the captain did not fall, stagger, and did NOT see any indications he was under the influence of drugs or alcohol. All because "Someone" on this board said he talked to the FO and the FO stated that the comment about partying to hard and that the captain was in the bathroom was BS.

Nice...

Classic FI.

 

[scarface]

The Penn. State Cops I knew in the National Guard were all high quality. The people I knew in the USMC who became FBI,Secret Service were/are ultra high quality. Like everyone I've had some problems with the locals, but over all I've been given more breaks than I rated.

 

[LarryinTN]

The answer to your car story is yes. You either drink and drive or you don't.

Unfortunately, that's not true. If a drunk walks out of a bar and gets in his car to sleep it off he's guilty of DUI in most, if not all, states. Even if he never gets in the driver's seat. Even if the keys never left his pocket.

 

[satpak77]

Unfortunately, that's not true. If a drunk walks out of a bar and gets in his car to sleep it off he's guilty of DUI in most, if not all, states. Even if he never gets in the driver's seat. Even if the keys never left his pocket.

DUI carries with it a BAC requirement, which must be proven. Absent a proof of BAC, no DUI.

Replace "guilty" with "chargeable" and you are correct. However not many prosecutors are going to pursue DUI/DWI charges against a drunk guy who got into his back seat to sleep off his alchohol. Will some? Sure, but most will not.

Now, if he is in the drivers seat, car parked, (some states require keys in ignition), AND BAC can be proven to be in excess of DUI mins, then yes, he can be convicted.

Proof of BAC is established via breath sample or a more accurate method, the blood sample which you must consent to, as in most states DUI/DWI is a misdemeanor, and absent consent, a warrant is required, and most judges will not grant warrants in misdemeanor cases. If you killed someone in a DUI/DWI accident, now it is a felony, and a warrant CAN be issued for your blood.

But with no BAC evidence, no DUI/DWI. Legally, impossible. Suspended license, ride the bus to work? Yes yes. DUI/DWI? No.

 

[Amish RakeFight]

I've twice in my life had the serious spins as I approached my car and ended up sleeping it off!

Never knew I could get charged for it. Maybe I should've found a nice park bench to sleep on.