Polar/Atlas Jumpseat

[Victor141]

I am trying to jumpseat to Santiago, Chile (SCL) in February. I just had a few questions for any Polar/Atlas guys that fly this route. I am a CASS pilot.
The MIA to SCL route stops over in VCP. DO I need a visa for Brazil even though I will not be staying there? What are my odds getting on MIA-SCL-MIA? I've been to the Polar/Atlas jumpseat website, just wanted a few more details. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Happy New Year and Thanks.

 

[CaptSeth]

There is no longer such a thing as international jumpseating for offline pilots. You need to either get a pass or have an international jumpseat agreement with a carrier that permits a pilot to occupy a cabin seat instead. I do not know of any freight carriers that permit international cabin riders due to aircraft configuration/security requirements.

 

[Victor141]

CaptSeth do you work for Polar/Atlas?

 

[CaptSeth]

Nope, but I know a few things about jumpseating.

 

[waka]

There is no longer such a thing as international jumpseating for offline pilots. You need to either get a pass or have an international jumpseat agreement with a carrier that permits a pilot to occupy a cabin seat instead. I do not know of any freight carriers that permit international cabin riders due to aircraft configuration/security requirements.

that's odd because they gave me a ride from Seoul a year ago and my employer has no special international agreement, just CASS.

CaptSeth do you work for Polar/Atlas?

apparently not

 

[Victor141]

Waka

I heard they took guys international. Any problems? Pretty straight forward? Thanks

 

[Kenny]

Polar/Atlas are outstanding to JS on. Used them to get to HKG and Australia pretty much every year for the last 4 years.

Log onto their website and fill out the OAL request. All easy from there.

Kalitta and Evergreen are pretty good as well.

 

[waka]

Waka

I heard they took guys international. Any problems? Pretty straight forward? Thanks

Find the hotel (through Atlas/Polar) for the crew and meet them there to ride the van with them to the gate. No problems and straight forward made it a great JS experience....they even had extra catering!

 

[NERVOUS]

There is no longer such a thing as international jumpseating for offline pilots. You need to either get a pass or have an international jumpseat agreement with a carrier that permits a pilot to occupy a cabin seat instead. I do not know of any freight carriers that permit international cabin riders due to aircraft configuration/security requirements.

With all due respect, it is usually the wiser decision to refrain from offering information on subjects of which you know nothing about.

At the time, Polar is not operating that route in S. America. I do not know for certain whether Atlas is, but a simple call to AAWH operations on your part will not only answer that, but allow you to sign up for the jumpseat as well.

You're being CASS is the only requirement that I know of to register for the jumpseat, and fly aboard our "friendly skies," anywhere in the world.

Good luck, and I hope it works out for you. Remember to request the Picanha for your return jumpseat to the States!

 

[Victor141]

Thanks

 

[CaptSeth]

With all due respect, it is usually the wiser decision to refrain from offering information on subjects of which you know nothing about.

At the time, Polar is not operating that route in S. America. I do not know for certain whether Atlas is, but a simple call to AAWH operations on your part will not only answer that, but allow you to sign up for the jumpseat as well.

You're being CASS is the only requirement that I know of to register for the jumpseat, and fly aboard our "friendly skies," anywhere in the world.

Good luck, and I hope it works out for you. Remember to request the Picanha for your return jumpseat to the States!

With no due respect, you should leave your condescending smart mouth at home, punk.

I was the Jumpseat Coordinator for my former carrier -and while you may enjoy all sorts of illicit privileges with your carrier, advertising what you are doing will jeopordize those priviliges as well as those of everyone else in the industry.

I repeat: there is no more international jumpseating for offline pilots. CASS or no CASS, it is not accepted. If you have a secure cockpit and a procedure for carrying offline personnel in the cabin, then fine. But if you don't, just wait until the TSA finds someone in your aircraft that shouldn't be there.

 

[waka]

With no due respect, you should leave your condescending smart mouth at home, punk.

NERVOUS implied none of those things and was sincere. You're a hypocrite, especially on the "punk" part. On that note, lighten up Francis.

I was the Jumpseat Coordinator for my former carrier -and while you may enjoy all sorts of illicit privileges with your carrier, advertising what you are doing will jeopordize those priviliges as well as those of everyone else in the industry.

I repeat: there is no more international jumpseating for offline pilots. CASS or no CASS, it is not accepted. If you have a secure cockpit and a procedure for carrying offline personnel in the cabin, then fine. But if you don't, just wait until the TSA finds someone in your aircraft that shouldn't be there.

Apparently you were a misinformed JS coordinator. As far as I know, (for some stupid reason) the TSA only has a problem with UPS and FedEx taking international offline jump seaters. With CASS, there is no TSA restriction on the other companies' freighters......including those operating the 747 which obviously doesn't have a door separating the rear seats in the upper deck.

 

[dojetdriver]

I repeat: there is no more international jumpseating for offline pilots. CASS or no CASS, it is not accepted. If you have a secure cockpit and a procedure for carrying offline personnel in the cabin, then fine. But if you don't, just wait until the TSA finds someone in your aircraft that shouldn't be there.

That's simply not true. Especially as it pertains to the ACMI carriers.

As far as I know, (for some stupid reason) the TSA only has a problem with UPS and FedEx taking international offline jump seaters.

From what I understand, it's not really that the TSA has a problem with FedEx/UPS. It's that they (FX/UPS) choose to NOT comply with a security reg that the ACMI's do. Thus, allowing them (the ACMI's) to carry and offline guy international.

How they get away with carrying a horse/animal trainer in a international flight is beyond me.

 

[NEDude]

I used Polar/Atlas (Polar aircraft and flight number - Atlas crew) to get home from HKG last July. Just fill out the jumpseat form on their website and they get back to you pretty quick. They even helped me find out where to meet the crew in HKG. Lots of food and very comfortable.

Was listed on the release, all of the customs forms and everything. All nice and legal.

Sorry CaptSeth, your information is incorrect. Atlas/Polar do this all the time, legal and legit.