Thinking out loud on DHL and asking a few QQ's

[erichartmann]

Wake up and smell the roses FB. With run up in fuel prices, the economy taking a dive and the inept management of DHL we would be in the same place even if Hete had accepted the $7.75. Your 727's burn way to much fuel for what they can carry, to say nothing of the 3 man crew. The only thing that might be different would be the type of aircraft DHL would be using once they go back to CVG and who would be flying them.


Well, here we go again! Domestic vs. supplemental, yeah, yeah...2 vs. 3 man crews, Cat II, blah, blah, blah.

And your "mention" of the $7.75 "offer" was....

 

[rotor&wing]

And your "mention" of the $7.75 "offer" was....

A. Should have taken it??????

 

[CRACKHEAD]

Update on DHL

home : headlines : headlines [FONT=ARIAL, SANS SERIF]November 07, 2008[/FONT] [FONT=ARIAL, SANS SERIF]11/6/2008 8:52:00 PM [/FONT][FONT=ARIAL, SANS SERIF]Email this article • Print this article [/FONT]

[FONT=ARIAL BLACK, ARIAL, SANS SERIF]DHL to disclose 'further steps' Monday[/FONT]

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[FONT=ARIAL, SANS SERIF]As a Monday press conference in Bonn, Germany, draws near, there appear to be warning signs DHL’s business in the United States continues a downhill slide.
Unishippers, a franchise business that consolidates shipments for small businesses, has announced it has switched to United Parcel Service (UPS), according to a Wednesday report on Traffic World Online.
Traffic World Online called Unishippers “the highest-profile shipper yet to abandon DHL in the United States.”
According to the DHL Press Office, Monday’s press conference is being held “to discuss DPWN business results in the first nine months of the year, and inform you about the progress and further steps in the restructuring of our DHL U.S. Express business.” DPWN stands for Deutsche Post World Net, which is the parent corporation of DHL Global, including the U.S. arm of DHL’s global freight network.


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[FONT=ARIAL, SANS SERIF]Taking part in the Bonn press conference will be DPWN CEO Frank Appel, DPWN Chief Financial Officer John Allan, and DHL Express CEO John Mullen.
The Traffic World Online report said DHL officials did not comment “on growing suggestions” DHL was unable to reach an agreement with UPS on a planned air freight contract involving DHL’s shipments within North America.
Meanwhile, an online Monday report in e-Cargonews Asia said some observers surmise DHL has ended its plan to be a viable alternative to FedEx and UPS in the U.S. parcel market. These observers predict DHL will return to its earlier focus on international shipments to and from the United States.
The online trade publication adds if DHL does limit its U.S. operations to international shipping, “there would be no point for DHL to pursue the planned agreement with UPS.” That’s because the announced proposal between the two megacarriers would involve DHL’s air freight within North America, which of course includes DHL air freight that has a U.S. starting point and a U.S. end-point.
The News Journal will post a bulletin Monday morning on its Web site at www.wnewsj.com shortly after the press conference, scheduled to begin 8 a.m. Eastern Standard Time.


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[flyinboxes]

Wake up and smell the roses FB. With run up in fuel prices, the economy taking a dive and the inept management of DHL we would be in the same place even if Hete had accepted the $7.75. Your 727's burn way to much fuel for what they can carry, to say nothing of the 3 man crew. The only thing that might be different would be the type of aircraft DHL would be using once they go back to CVG and who would be flying them.

Well, if you watch Mullins testimony, things would most certainly be different for all of us. We may be facing furloughs but at least there would be job one day to return to possibly. DHL may be in a bind still, but they would have there one airline which was the plan until Joe tossed a grenade. Thanks again Joe.

 

[shooter]

Well, if you watch Mullins testimony, things would most certainly be different for all of us. We may be facing furloughs but at least there would be job one day to return to possibly. DHL may be in a bind still, but they would have there one airline which was the plan until Joe tossed a grenade. Thanks again Joe.

Or...Dasburg could have accepted one of the 3 offers Joe put on the table before he "came a knockin'".

So all together now...THANKS DASBURG. Get off the indication of interest Joe pushed back across the table when it was pushed back to Joe 3 times prior.

 

[rotor&wing]

I'm still amazed that a CEO presiding over a company that has lost 98% of it's value still has a job.

 

[mxer]

I'm still amazed that a CEO presiding over a company that has lost 98% of it's value still has a job.

Just curious. Are you talking about Hete or one of the DHL idiots. Fair game either way.

 

[rotor&wing]

Just curious. Are you talking about Hete or one of the DHL idiots. Fair game either way.

DPWN has taken a beating for sure. But why is Hete still employed at ATSG? Why haven't the stock holders tossed him out?

 

[mxer]

Same reason the Daz, and the others are still around while containers jam filled with air are being transported around. At least they got rid of all those pesky customers.

 

[l8fr82hub]

Deutsche Post to curtail U.S. expansion: WSJ
Saturday November 8, 11:51 pm ET NEW YORK (Reuters) - Deutsche Post AG (XETRA:DPWGN.DE - News), the German parent of delivery company DHL, is expected to announce on Monday that it will sharply curtail its planned U.S. expansion, The Wall Street Journal reported on its Web site on Saturday. Citing people familiar with the situation, the newspaper said the decision would likely be announced as part of Deutsche Post's third-quarter earnings release in Bonn, Germany.
A spokesman for DHL, which has seen billions of dollars of U.S. losses since its 2003 purchase of Airborne Inc., declined comment, saying the company would not make public comments just before its earnings report.
People briefed on the pullback, aimed at FedEx Corp. and United Parcel Service Inc.'s dominance, would not mean that DHL would totally disappear from U.S. service, the Journal said.
DHL is expected to continue its U.S. freight-forwarding operation, which employs thousands, and will continue handling international deliveries in the United States, the report said. It will also keep its own operations in major metropolitan areas.
But packages addressed to remote areas will likely be delivered by the U.S. Postal Service, it said, while DHL's domestic business, in which it was competing to transport packages within the United States, will be mostly shut down, the Journal said.
DHL is expected to follow through on an agreement with UPS under which DHL would outsource the airlift, or airport-to-airport leg, of its domestic U.S. delivery business to UPS, the report said.

 

[flyinboxes]

Or...Dasburg could have accepted one of the 3 offers Joe put on the table before he "came a knockin'".

So all together now...THANKS DASBURG. Get off the indication of interest Joe pushed back across the table when it was pushed back to Joe 3 times prior.

There is no record of such offers from Hete to purchase Astar. All rumor.

 

[shooter]

There is no record of such offers from Hete to purchase Astar. All rumor.

Thats not true. Sworn testimony, under oath, at the congressional hearings.

So, let's hear it....THANKS DASBURG.

 

[rotor&wing]

Thats not true. Sworn testimony, under oath, at the congressional hearings.

So, let's hear it....THANKS DASBURG.

I heard through a very reputable source that Hete did in fact make an offer. It was a very low ball offer and not even worth considering.

At least Dasburg/DHL made a legitimate offer for ABX.

 

[shooter]

I heard through a very reputable source that Hete did in fact make an offer. It was a very low ball offer and not even worth considering.

At least Dasburg/DHL made a legitimate offer for ABX.

That may be true. I have no idea what the offers were.

Bottom line, we are all hosed. And we can point fingers all day everyday and it does not change the fact that the problems did not lie in the air network. Old Mullen can cry economy and multiple airline network all he wants it does not change the fact they screwed up HUGE and we are the ones paying. If they wanted one airline they could have had one without ABX, so I don't buy into his lies.

 

[ABXbooger]

I love how someone says "just rumors" and you sit there and say "well if Hete had accepted the offer we would all be fine..." Talk about rumors...

DHL never had any business being here in the US, a poor and getting poorer economy doesn't help, true, but they never had a legitimate business model that could compete against true express companies.

 

[shooter]

I love how someone says "just rumors" and you sit there and say "well if Hete had accepted the offer we would all be fine..." Talk about rumors...

DHL never had any business being here in the US, a poor and getting poorer economy doesn't help, true, but they never had a legitimate business model that could compete against true express companies.

Great point booger. I know people like trashing ABX, seems to be the flavor du jour. But in this economy I think a low cost model of ABX in the express package business would thrive as Southwest has been the past few years. But that is just speculation on my part.

 

[ABXbooger]

Here's a rumor for ya, or rather a supposition: If DHL had not bought Airborne Express, there would still be a viable third alternative in the express freight industry.

 

[Whistlin' Dan]

I love how someone says "just rumors" and you sit there and say "well if Hete had accepted the offer we would all be fine..." Talk about rumors...

DHL never had any business being here in the US, a poor and getting poorer economy doesn't help, true, but they never had a legitimate business model that could compete against true express companies.

I think the "model" was OK - basically, pick-up the customer's stuff, fly it to a mid-continent destination in the middle of the night, sort it, then fly it back out and deliver it the next morning. The problem was in the implementation. FedEx and UPS both understand that overnight express is a premium product, a philosophy which is evidenced in every area of their operation. DHL, on the other hand, handled OE like cartage. The focus was on low cost, with delivery the next morning whenever possible, or maybe the next afternoon if the 30-year-old plane breaks or can't land due to weather, or maybe the day after the next day if the FAA grounds the contractor at an outstation.

Same business model for all 3 companies, but a differing level of committment to service between DHL and their competitors.

It doesn't matter who should have bought who, when, or for how much. The end has been coming for the last 25 years.

 

[abxaviator]

T minus 12 hours.

 

[hyflyin]

FRANKFURT, Nov 9 (Reuters) - Some 40,000 Deutsche Post (DPWGn.DE: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz) in the United States are at risk as the group steps up plans to turn round its loss-making DHL express delivery company there, a German newspaper report said on Sunday.
Citing internal sources, the Frankfurter Allgemeine Sonntagszeitung (FAS) said of the total, 20,000 of jobs were threatened directly at Deutsche Post's U.S. express unit and the other half at U.S. partner firms.
A spokeswoman for Deutsche Post, which on Monday is due to report third-quarter earnings, on Sunday declined to comment on the figures mentioned in the newspaper report.
The U.S. business has been hit by shrinking investments from businesses amid the global economic crisis.
A Deutsche Post spokeswoman had said in October that her firm was cutting its U.S. ground network capacity by 30 percent faster than planned and could take further measures if necessary.
The company in May announced a $2 billion restructuring programme for the U.S. express business, for which it expected to post a $1.3 billion loss before interest and tax this year.