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roughneck

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I heard this week that we are planning a minimum of 2 classes per month through next May. Possibly more.

This is second hand from a guy who heard it from the mouth of the Manager of Pilot hiring.
 
They are either getting ready to take over DEN or international. Check the latest OPC revision destinations. Cancun and other South America airports are listed which were not there even when we were talking about outsourcing maintenance.

Hopefully the 13 year upgrade won't actually materialize.
 
roughneck said:
I heard this week that we are planning a minimum of 2 classes per month through next May. Possibly more.

This is second hand from a guy who heard it from the mouth of the Manager of Pilot hiring.
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Well for one, I belive Rocky as he has no reason to BS. Great guy to fly with too.
 
DH2WN said:
They are either getting ready to take over DEN or international. Check the latest OPC revision destinations. Cancun and other South America airports are listed which were not there even when we were talking about outsourcing maintenance.

Hopefully the 13 year upgrade won't actually materialize.
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Remember that plan to do heavy mx down in central america that we canned a month ago? that's the only reason that stuff is in there.

But I hope you're right!
 
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come on telephone...... ring!
 
what airports in South America? You mean SOUTH or are you intending to say "latin america" as in Panama, Mexico, and also everywhere else?
 
DH2WN said:
They are either getting ready to take over DEN or international. Check the latest OPC revision destinations. Cancun and other South America airports are listed which were not there even when we were talking about outsourcing maintenance.

Hopefully the 13 year upgrade won't actually materialize.
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Why do you think you are taking over DEN?...or do you mean take over Frontiers routes. You are not taking over DEN.
 
I heard SW is opening up a Bentonville domicile.
 
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Just a matter of time.
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DEN will only have 1 low cost carrier instead of 2...looks like SWA will just take over what Frontier leaves behind....you will not completely take over DEN...trust me. DEN will not be content with only a low cost carrier in their city.
 
contrail67 said:
DEN will only have 1 low cost carrier instead of 2...looks like SWA will just take over what Frontier leaves behind....you will not completely take over DEN...trust me. DEN will not be content with only a low cost carrier in their city.
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Well, when UA closes it's doors DEN will only have 1 airline. So, SWA will be taking over DEN. Which, for onw would be a Godsend! No more UA nasty rude gate agents! WOW....imagine! Go get them SWA!
 
Anything about the Bentonville, AK domicile rumor yet?
 
flyipilot said:
Well, when UA closes it's doors DEN will only have 1 airline. So, SWA will be taking over DEN. Which, for onw would be a Godsend! No more UA nasty rude gate agents! WOW....imagine! Go get them SWA!
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Frontier is just collateral damage. The real target is UA!
 
There will always be a market for the low cost carrier crowd which SWA is grabbing as much as they can.
SWA's load factor ...last I saw was in the 70% range...most legacy carriers...including UAL is in the mid to upper 80% range.

I am sure that SWA's service is the best you can get.....but the numbers they are boarding don't reflect it.
 
contrail67 said:
There will always be a market for the low cost carrier crowd which SWA is grabbing as much as they can.
SWA's load factor ...last I saw was in the 70% range...most legacy carriers...including UAL is in the mid to upper 80% range.

I am sure that SWA's service is the best you can get.....but the numbers they are boarding don't reflect it.
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Load factors mean different things compared to hub and spoke and point to point. SWA is also profitable 65-68% load. The darling legacys cant make money at 80-85%. Hmmmm
 
Regarding load factors, SWA consistently has that year over year increases. Many legacies do not.

some examples announced this month....of course it can not be ignored that when a company is shrinking load factors would go up....initially at least.....

"Continental Airlines......mainline load factor of 84.1 percent, 2.0 points below the June 2007 "

"United Airlines has reported that its passenger load factor decreased 2.6 points to 86.5% in June 2008, compared to 89.1% in June 2007. "

"Delta's......Domestic traffic in June 2008 decreased 7.0 percent year over year
on a capacity decrease of 6.6 percent. Delta's domestic load factor was 86.9
percent, flat compared to June 2007."

"Northwest reported a mainline load factor of 87.7 percent,
0.9 points below June 2007."

"US Airways Group Inc. Monday said its June
load factor was 85%, a decrease of 0.8 points from the 85.8% posted in June
2007."
 
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contrail67 said:
There will always be a market for the low cost carrier crowd which SWA is grabbing as much as they can.
SWA's load factor ...last I saw was in the 70% range...most legacy carriers...including UAL is in the mid to upper 80% range.

I am sure that SWA's service is the best you can get.....but the numbers they are boarding don't reflect it.
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You've got 14000 hours and think that high load factors translate directly into profits? Seriously?
 
Dude,

I am not talking about profits at all....just responding to the previous comment about how terrible UAL's service is....and still for some reason they pull off a mid 80% load factor. Why is it so high?

Seems like if the service was that terrible, SWA's load factor would be closer to 100% and UAL's in the 60% or so. Not talking profits at all in this situation....
For someone with "plenty of time" you may want to read.
 
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flyipilot said:
Well, when UA closes it's doors DEN will only have 1 airline. So, SWA will be taking over DEN. Which, for onw would be a Godsend! No more UA nasty rude gate agents! WOW....imagine! Go get them SWA!
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i dont think the people that need to get to atlanta or south caroina, or international wil see it the same way.
 

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