787 Power-on Testing Begins

[JAM-BRO]

http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/flightblogger/2008/06/breaking-exclusive-787-poweron.html

 

[Superpilot92]

Very Nice!! :beer:

 

[SpauldingSmails]

Good news for the NWA guys. *fingers crossed on no flowbacks*

 

[clippyrip]

Very cool. I guess its more than a phantom.

 

[General Lee]

And 3 years from now the first actual flight test will occur......

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[patrickdc9]

And 3 years from now the first actual flight test will occur......

Bye Bye--General Lee

I don't quite understand you General. If you truely are for this merger and the potential strength that the combined airline will have, then why do you make comments like this? These 787's coming to the combined airline will benefit all of us. Lets not be a hater.

 

[The_Russian]

These 787's coming to the combined airline will benefit all of us. Lets not be a hater.

True.

However, what happened to the days when men got things done? This plane should have been completed by now, without delays or mistakes. If I were an engineer for Boeing, I would be working 16 hours a day to get this plane into production. If they keep working at this pace, Boeing and the airlines will be out of business. They aren't re-inventing the wheel or developing new technologies, just changing the way those technologies apply with respect to the airplane.

If they are working as hard as possible, then I will stand corrected. It doesn't look like that is so and all of us will suffer from it, including Boeing.

I am simultaneously disappointed and impressed by the Boeing team for their delay and conception (respectively) of such a great airplane. We can end the disappointment by introducing a true American competitor which will speed deliveries. (Not Airbus)

 

[FBN0223]

I don't quite understand you General. If you truely are for this merger and the potential strength that the combined airline will have, then why do you make comments like this? These 787's coming to the combined airline will benefit all of us. Lets not be a hater.

It's the old game of "everything you guys bring to the table sucks." Not an unusual tactic when negotiating the SLI. Actually, GL knows the B787 will be a great asset to the new Delta and it will be a difficult if not impossible aircraft to compete against in the Pacific markets. We are all disappointed about the program delays but it's better to take the time and get it right. Boeing is betting it's future on this aircraft and we all would rather be at the helm of an aircraft that was engineered correctly rather than hastily.

 

[~~~^~~~]

Muss es sein? Es muss sein!

Yippee - they moved the Battery Master to the NO position.

Correction - switch installed upside down. Switch is in the ON position.

Hope this is significant progress. The Titanium fastners that Boeing outsourced have been holding up the show.

Why would a company outsource the unique bolts that hold their unique jet together. It would be like Delta outsourcing 80% of its block hours from a major hub... oh' nevermind.

 

[General Lee]

I don't quite understand you General. If you truely are for this merger and the potential strength that the combined airline will have, then why do you make comments like this? These 787's coming to the combined airline will benefit all of us. Lets not be a hater.

Am I making fun of you or the manufacturer who continually screws up the start dates? Re-read my post. Don't be "quick draw McGraw" here, even if that is the nickname given to you by your wife. I want our combined airline to be huge and strong just like you do.

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[Hovernut]

First flight is supposed to happen in October. At least that's what the IMAX fellas I'm working with tell me.

 

[Spooky 2]

I'm hearing rumors that it might even be as soon as Sept.

 

[NuGuy]

I don't quite understand you General. If you truely are for this merger and the potential strength that the combined airline will have, then why do you make comments like this? These 787's coming to the combined airline will benefit all of us. Lets not be a hater.

Heyas,

Yea, it's kind of strange. I mean, Boeing is the home team, right? They make it sound like it was an Airbus or something.

Nu

 

[IXLR8]

I was at Boeing last week..the #2 a/c on the line was the test mule for when they twist and try to break apart the 787...I would love to see those tests!!!!

 

[Colonel Savage]

So by the time this thing is ready most of the airlines on the planet will be bankrupt or out of business. Will they just trade in a few old 300+ pax ones for a $150 million 200 pax Dreamyliner, or just borrow money from the by-then extinct credit markets? What's the payrate going to be by then, $90 bucks an hour to keep a $150 million asset in one piece?

I know, just move to Dubai or HK to fly one. Maybe you'll break six figures! That's really livin' the Dream!

This industry is way past surreal. It's like the Twilight Zone.

 

[spitfire1500]

Good maybe I'll start delivering planes soon. Been flying the Dreamlifter empty a few legs for currency.

 

[FDJ2]

It's good to see progress on the 787.

 

[Spooky 2]

True.

However, what happened to the days when men got things done? This plane should have been completed by now, without delays or mistakes. If I were an engineer for Boeing, I would be working 16 hours a day to get this plane into production. If they keep working at this pace, Boeing and the airlines will be out of business. They aren't re-inventing the wheel or developing new technologies, just changing the way those technologies apply with respect to the airplane.

If they are working as hard as possible, then I will stand corrected. It doesn't look like that is so and all of us will suffer from it, including Boeing.

I am simultaneously disappointed and impressed by the Boeing team for their delay and conception (respectively) of such a great airplane. We can end the disappointment by introducing a true American competitor which will speed deliveries. (Not Airbus)

You have to be clueless. There is so much new technology in this airplane that the test program will be a huge challenge. As they are fond of saying, there are only to problems left, software and hardware.

 

[UALjan15]

True.

They aren't re-inventing the wheel or developing new technologies, just changing the way those technologies apply with respect to the airplane.

If they are working as hard as possible, then I will stand corrected. It doesn't look like that is so and all of us will suffer from it, including Boeing.

I am simultaneously disappointed and impressed by the Boeing team for their delay and conception (respectively) of such a great airplane.

Just because it looks like a traditional airliner doesn't meen that new technologies haven't been developed. I have spent some time reading about all of these, and they are indeed re-inventions of a lot of the systems. Take a look at the electrical system, for example. Entire systems like pneumatics and pressurization are now powered by massive generators. Then of course there is the widespread use of carbon and composites in areas never before attempted. Do some research before you post your ignorance on FI.

I think the delays are understandable and even expected considering all of the new technology. This is not just a scaled down 777 by any stretch of the imagination. I hope Boeing gets it right--this company is one of our country's best exporters and should always be a symbol of American engineering excellence.

 

[Superpilot92]

http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/flightblogger/2008/06/onboard-dreamliner-four.html

some new pictures

Cockpit pictures

http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/flightblogger/2008/06/fours-front-office.html

 

[The_Russian]

Just because it looks like a traditional airliner doesn't meen that new technologies haven't been developed. I have spent some time reading about all of these, and they are indeed re-inventions of a lot of the systems. Take a look at the electrical system, for example. Entire systems like pneumatics and pressurization are now powered by massive generators. Then of course there is the widespread use of carbon and composites in areas never before attempted. Do some research before you post your ignorance on FI.

They are not developing any new technology or any new sciences. Carbon and composites have been used in production airplanes for the last thirty (30) years or more. This includes FAR Part 25 aircraft. Also, while the pressurization may be powered by a different source, the principles are the same. New advances in magnetism outside of aviation have lead to the development of more powerful generators and electric motors which now allows them to make this transition. Boeing had little, if anything to do with these technological advances.

Once again, they are not re-inventing the wheel, because these technologies already exist.

I think the delays are understandable and even expected considering all of the new technology. This is not just a scaled down 777 by any stretch of the imagination. I hope Boeing gets it right--this company is one of our country's best exporters and should always be a symbol of American engineering excellence.

The delays are based on poor planning and lack of dedication of the American workforce. Also, a lack of another American competitor does not breed an excellent Thoroughbred. I also hope that Boeing gets it right, or the airlines and Boeing will suffer tremendously.

I find it offensive that you refer to me as "ignorant".

 

[The_Russian]

You have to be clueless. There is so much new technology in this airplane that the test program will be a huge challenge. As they are fond of saying, there are only to problems left, software and hardware.

See above.

 

[whymeworry?]

I didn't see the cup holders anywhere in the pics.

 

[Spooky 2]

See above.

Sorry. Your are not ignorant, but you are a pompass commie.

 

[The_Russian]

Sorry. Your are not ignorant, but you are a pompass commie.

Honestly, I don't see how you take any of my posts as pompous. I feel they are quite objective, actually.

Why do some of you have a pension for talking down to others? What ever happened to mutual respect between flight crews?

 

[Spooky 2]

Honestly, I don't see how you take any of my posts as pompous. I feel they are quite objective, actually.

Why do some of you have a pension for talking down to others? What ever happened to mutual respect between flight crews?

I can just feel the love. BTW, I think your a poser also. Come on, when did you fly a MIG 29? No one respects a poser.

 

[NuGuy]

http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/flightblogger/2008/06/onboard-dreamliner-four.html

some new pictures

Cockpit pictures

http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/flightblogger/2008/06/fours-front-office.html

Heyas,

They are going full tilt over at the puzzle palace making room for the FTDs and the sim. Lot's of construction.

Got to sit in the mockup. VERY cool.

Nu

 

[The_Russian]

I can just feel the love. BTW, I think your a poser also. Come on, when did you fly a MIG 29? No one respects a poser.

I think you just need to chill out a little! Or maybe you just need to get laid.

 

[Spooky 2]

I think you just need to chill out a little! Or maybe you just need to get laid.

Love or not, it's still fun to push your buttons, and yes you are a poser.

 

[pianoman]

There's a lot in common with the 777 as far as controls/switches/buttons go.