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USAir will cut capacity, expects industry to cut 9%, then 9% more in 09--article

Wednesday, June 11, 2008 - 5:36 PM EDT


US Airways shares fall 15% on shareholder meeting day


Philadelphia Business Journal

US Airways Group Inc. expects the U.S. airline industry to cut capacity 9 percent in the fourth quarter and 9 percent more next year because of escalating fuel costs.

"Oil prices are having a profound impact on our economy but an even more severe impact on the airline business," US Airways CEO Doug Parker said at the carrier's shareholder meeting Wednesday. "The industry is taking aggressive action that will have meaningful impact." Shares in the airline, the dominant carrier at Philadelphia International Airport, closed down 15 percent at $3.20.

US Airways has previously announced plans to cut capacity by 2 percent to 4 percent by the fourth quarter. The Tempe, Ariz.-based airline also is considering adding fees to boost revenue in addition to charges it has recently initiated.

Continental Airlines Inc. plans to shed 3,000 jobs and reduce capacity by 16 percent by year end. American Airlines Inc. will cut thousands of jobs and reduce mainline domestic capacity 11 percent to 12 percent during the fourth quarter.

Meanwhile, United Airlines plans to eliminate almost 1,500 positions, remove 100 aircraft from its fleet and eliminate its divisional brand, Ted. It will also reduce its domestic capacity by 14 percent in the fourth quarter. Parker did not mention jobs cuts during the shareholder meeting.

Oil has jumped to $134.18 per barrel from $80.73 at this time last year. US Airways says fuel will cost the industry $18 billion more in 2008 than last year. For US Airways alone, fuel costs will rise $2 billion this year. In 2008, US Airways' fuel expense per roundtrip mainline passenger is averaging about $300, almost double the cost last year. Fuel costs represent about half of the airline's expenses per ticket. It would have to charge about $650 per ticket just to break even, Parker said.

"We're nowhere close to that," he said. "No one in the business is close to that. This is a major problem."


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Actually the article says USAirways is going to cut 2-4% and the expect the industry to cut 9%.
 
Yikes, you're right, but now I can't change the original title. I tried to, and I could do it on the inner one. Sorry. I saw the 9% and I thought it was only with USAir.


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US Airways has about 3000 pilots, so maybe 100-150 furloughed?

They may still only cut 2-4%. I thought it was 9% for USAir only, and the article states 9% for the INDUSTRY. Sorry to anyone who is confused.


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I heard they were going to furlough 1700 from the west and then the east was going to merge with another airline and save them like they saved AWA.
 
I heard they were going to furlough 1700 from the west and then the east was going to merge with another airline and save them like they saved AWA.
Flamebait?

Aw #&@%, here we go again. :rolleyes:
 
Flamebait?

Aw #&@%, here we go again. :rolleyes:

Come on! Wouldn't 1700 furloughs on the West be everyone there? Yes, it was flamebait......and ridiculous. The USAPA can't even pay their own bills because the West guys won't join, and they recently tacked on an additional 1% to their monthly dues. (up to 3%) Now that is funny. The Easties realize this too, and it makes them nervous.....I hear tings..

Bye Bye--General Lee
 
Come on! Wouldn't 1700 furloughs on the West be everyone there? Yes, it was flamebait......and ridiculous. The USAPA can't even pay their own bills because the West guys won't join, and they recently tacked on an additional 1% to their monthly dues. (up to 3%) Now that is funny. The Easties realize this too, and it makes them nervous.....I hear tings..

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Hey GL he was being sarcastic....
 
No there would still be about 120 or so, that's plenty.

Kindly take a naturally occurring granular material composed of finely divided rock and mineral particles and strike heavily or repeatedly. (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pound+sand)

We attempted a fair seniority where we would all get apporximate relative seniority (and didn't even get that), and here we are bickering over a FEDERAL FINAL and BINDING award. Good thing I got 100% pay for a DH today...otherwise I might be disappointed;). I wonder what kind of pay we'll get tomorrow if we have a Mechanical cancelation? Oh yea...100%:laugh: . Got VACATION?? It's 31 days a year on the West if you've been around a while.
 
The USAPA can't even pay their own bills because the West guys won't join, and they recently tacked on an additional 1% to their monthly dues. (up to 3%)

Exactly what Rez and I predicted. It'll get worse. Should be fun watching USCABA implode.
 
Yes,

There is a June class. I had one going to CLT on my jumpseat today.

With most of the fleets flying 90-95 hour caps, there is some room to play with in line reductions.
 
Pilotss:

You are kinding me that US Airways started a class in June right.

I hope for these pilot sacks the company gives the furlough pay. Crap these guys quit good jobs, and the company knew oil sky high.

iflyhigh
 
Pilotss:

You are kinding me that US Airways started a class in June right.

I hope for these pilot sacks the company gives the furlough pay. Crap these guys quit good jobs, and the company knew oil sky high.

iflyhigh

The pilots who started class also know oil is sky high... Nobody forced them to go.
 
USAIR is still short for current flying. We are flying 90 plus hours and certain days there are no reserves. Reserves are timing out.Last bid award for jul and aug still showed vacancies on the 737 190 and little bus.
During the last few months USAIR EAST is shrinking to minimum fleet. 208 planes plus about 18 190's. (190 do not count).

There has been no growth. We are half the size we used to be . (415 planes down to 208 plus 18 190's).
All flying replaced by RJ's and E 170/175.

All hiring and recalls are because people have left. The seniority numbers need to be redone. Actual working pilots EAST 2800 pilots. The SL has about 200 pilots less then the 3600 people mention.

Marty
 
USAIR is still short for current flying. We are flying 90 plus hours and certain days there are no reserves. Reserves are timing out.Last bid award for jul and aug still showed vacancies on the 737 190 and little bus.
During the last few months USAIR EAST is shrinking to minimum fleet. 208 planes plus about 18 190's. (190 do not count).

There has been no growth. We are half the size we used to be . (415 planes down to 208 plus 18 190's).
All flying replaced by RJ's and E 170/175.

All hiring and recalls are because people have left. The seniority numbers need to be redone. Actual working pilots EAST 2800 pilots. The SL has about 200 pilots less then the 3600 people mention.

Marty

I guess the 190 isn't a real airplane? Is it one of those fake ones you use a remote control with?

I've always thought guys with the USAir badge flew 190s....:rolleyes:
 
The 190 does not count against contractually required fleet minimums. That was the context of the comment, and it is 100% accurate.

I have been on RSV for 1 week, so far. I was called on my day off before the week began. SCH had an open trip for a flight in 35 minutes (unable). Tomorrow, as I begin my second week, there are 6 open trips and 7 RSVs.

The staffing here is quite short for a major, and similar to my previous airline at this point.
 
What reserves are timing out? I have yet to break guarantee... Only fly 4 days of every 5 or 6 on duty.. Must be on the wrong plane and base.

RF


USAIR is still short for current flying. We are flying 90 plus hours and certain days there are no reserves. Reserves are timing out.Last bid award for jul and aug still showed vacancies on the 737 190 and little bus.
During the last few months USAIR EAST is shrinking to minimum fleet. 208 planes plus about 18 190's. (190 do not count).

There has been no growth. We are half the size we used to be . (415 planes down to 208 plus 18 190's).
All flying replaced by RJ's and E 170/175.

All hiring and recalls are because people have left. The seniority numbers need to be redone. Actual working pilots EAST 2800 pilots. The SL has about 200 pilots less then the 3600 people mention.

Marty
 
I think it's a matter of once again, US superb crew management at work. They've got so many people spread around the list, where they don't belong, I don't think they know what way is up. Lot of guys have been held to cover flying while others get out of training. DCA AB, reserve screen shows 20 reserves or more, but maybe half of those are actually qualified.
 
here are the furlough numbers. straight from Lyle Hogg, VP Flight Ops in the LAS crew room tonight. 175 pilots furloughed out west and 125 out East, so AWA pilots will be let go while furloughed (at the time of the merger) x US Air pilots get to stay. How UCRAPPA is that. AWA saves US Air and now our pilots are being furloughed are a significantly higher % rate than theirs. What a pile of doo-doo. They are going to reduce further in 09 and 10, so more on the way.
 
Boss Hogg also said that furloughs would happen monthly from Sept-March. 10 in Sept, 30 (about) per month until 175. LOA's would decrease those numbers. Also, IF fuel comes back to 100 and/or pricing increases do not decrease capacity yadda yadda yadda; we may not have to furlough as many. Let me speak on behalf of those not over 60. fu
 

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