mesa parking airplanes...

[9rj9]

mesa flying erj145s to FLO tomorrow morning to park them. wonder how many...

 

[XPOO]

Read the Mesa EMB thread started by PBRstreetgang. pdub20s said the amount in there, I believe.

 

[dingo222]

Deets!!!!!!!

 

[goahead]

Great News

 

[pdub20s]

its true..crews are in position and ready to take em to FLO in the morning....12 ERJS

 

[outtahere]

Sweeeeeeeeet!

 

[be-400xpdriver]

What took so freaking long?

MESA SUCKS!!

 

[Jmoney]

Now if JO would just step in front of a bus or train, the world sure would take a setp in the right direction!

 

[erj-145mech]

All filed under the Freedom banner:

En Route/Scheduled To Florence Rgnl Airport (Florence, SC) [KFLO]IdentTypeOriginScheduled
Departure TimeDeparture
TimeEstimated
Arrival Time[URL="http://flightaware.com/live/airport/KFLO/enroute?;offset=0;order=estimatedarrivaltime;sort=DESC"][/URL]FRL9905E145Orlando Intl (KMCO)Sun 09:31 EDTSun 09:32 EDTSun 10:43 EDTFRL9904E145Orlando Intl (KMCO)Sun 09:16 EDTSun 09:42 EDTSun 10:53 EDTFRL9911E145Tampa Intl (KTPA)Sun 09:56 EDTunknownSun 11:12 EDTFRL9908E145Norfolk Intl (KORF)Sun 10:25 EDTunknownSun 11:17 EDTFRL9909E145Raleigh-Durham Intl (KRDU)Sun 11:06 EDTunknownSun 11:39 EDTFRL9912E145John F Kennedy Intl (KJFK)Sun 10:18 EDTunknownSun 11:51 EDTFRL9902E145Hollywood Int'l (KFLL)Sun 10:31 EDTunknownSun 12:07 EDTFRL9907E145Miami Intl (KMIA)Sun 10:46 EDTunknownSun 12:22 EDTFRL9913E145Greater Rochester Intl (KROC)Sun 10:55 EDTunknownSun 12:36 EDT

 

[10nCLR]

Yup, I see 9905 and 9904 enroute right now. 9911 just posted off time from TPA.

9908 has lift off!!
9905 on the ground in FLO
1 down 8 more to go. This is exciting!!!

 

[Soverytired]

In the short term, the more interesting question is "Will Mesa furlough crews in the near future?"

(knowing Mesa, it wouldn't surprise me if they had a crew tracker waiting in FLO to take their badges)

In the longer term, the question is "How many hundreds of RJ's will be parked over the next 2-5 years?"

 

[XPOO]

Didn't SkyWest just add the 145 to their certificate? Something tells me these aircraft wont be sitting there for long. Just a guess.

 

[WSurf]

Didn't SkyWest just add the 145 to their certificate? Something tells me these aircraft wont be sitting there for long. Just a guess.

I believe they will be sitting for sometime. Current Fuel Prices = Decline in use of 50 Seat RJ's.

I doubt Mesa will furlough over this. From what I have read they are very short staffed and this will open up 80 or so more pilots.

Didn't Mesa win the injunction? I bet JO made a deal with Delta, he is still getting paid and parking the planes. Win Win for him I bet.

 

[knewhigher]

Probably a dumb question, but why are they parking if they won the injuction?

 

[pdub20s]

Probably a dumb question, but why are they parking if they won the injuction?

Im not quite sure. Delta is still cutting back our flying as we speak. im sure its cheaper to park em in FLO instead of JFK,MCO,etc etc.... new rumor is me might code-share for Spirit.

 

[rickair7777]

Probably a dumb question, but why are they parking if they won the injuction?

DAL already adjusted their schedules to remove freedom...they are not going to fly empty airplanes around just to keep pilots employed.

The injunction just means that DAL will have to pay JO his fixed costs (leases, etc) and some profit margin, but they will agree to park the airplanes to save on fuel, flight crew payroll, and other expenses. As long as he gets his money, JO does not need to actually fly airplanes.

 

[WSurf]

I doubt Spirit will code-share. AirTran tried it with AirWilly and they decided to was cheaper to operate things by themselves. However if JO is still getting paid by Delta for the park planes, then who knows.

Gonna be hard to find a home for those planes. Even US Airways has said they currently operate too many 50 Seat RJ's and would love to lower that number.

 

[knewhigher]

gotcha.

So what are all the pilots being told Pdubs? You get a free vacation or something?

 

[pdub20s]

I doubt Spirit will code-share. AirTran tried it with AirWilly and they decided to was cheaper to operate things by themselves. However if JO is still getting paid by Delta for the park planes, then who knows.

Gonna be hard to find a home for those planes. Even US Airways has said they currently operate too many 50 Seat RJ's and would love to lower that number.

well JO has a seat on the board over at Spirit..so who knows?

 

[Jack Mehoff]

well JO has a seat on the board over at Spirit..so who knows?

and JO has a seat on your face a well apparently....


Sprit is about to lay off 1/2 the pilots and sell out to JB. Seriously dude Can I buy some Pot off you! You must be on the friggan Moon!

Keep token and post'n lil man. You make the RSV go by so much faster!
:laugh:

 

[TOOL CRIB]

Im not quite sure. Delta is still cutting back our flying as we speak. im sure its cheaper to park em in FLO instead of JFK,MCO,etc etc.... new rumor is me might code-share for Spirit.

Haha, the rumors get wilder as the reality gets more bleak. Run Forrest run!

 

[Jack Mehoff]

Is that Sign the Turn off to FLO Tool Crib? imp:

 

[TOOL CRIB]

Is that Sign the Turn off to FLO Tool Crib? imp:

What genius college did you graduate from to figure that one out??

 

[Jack Mehoff]

What genius college did you graduate from to figure that one out??

Line college were I Majored in Cushman and minored in Tug (white and yellow)

 

[TOOL CRIB]

Line college were I Majored in Cushman and minored in Tug (white and yellow)

You forgot the "concentraion" in drive-bys and the "Spun"

 

[Jack Mehoff]

You forgot the "concentraion" in drive-bys and the "Spun"

all important things do master in ones aviation schooling. Maybe if Pdubs20 had actually worked for a job rather then ptf and give JO "trouser friendly kisses" He'd be changing his tone.

 

[scarlet]

Flying today and controller ask Freedom why some many going to FLO this morning? and pilots stated they were parking airplanes...I thought the controller laughed...

 

[Soverytired]

Flying today and controller ask Freedom why some many going to FLO this morning? and pilots stated they were parking airplanes...I thought the controller laughed...

Yeah, because air traffic controllers regularly follow the internal politics and divisions between the small lift providers . . . .

 

[B.T.Justice]

I believe I read at an analysts article saying the MESA contract could be canceled by Delta for any reason with 12 months notice.

The aircraft are being parked, and will stay parked. Even if Mesa wins, Delta cancels the contract without cause, and pays leases and Mesa's profit margin for 12 months, then washes their hands of the 145's. Also, if Mesa declares chapter 11, Delta can walk away from the whole deal immediately, with no penalties. Which will probably happen this summer when their bonds are due.

 

[flyboyzz1]

I believe I read at an analysts article saying the MESA contract could be canceled by Delta for any reason with 12 months notice.

The aircraft are being parked, and will stay parked. Even if Mesa wins, Delta cancels the contract without cause, and pays leases and Mesa's profit margin for 12 months, then washes their hands of the 145's. Also, if Mesa declares chapter 11, Delta can walk away from the whole deal immediately, with no penalties. Which will probably happen this summer when their bonds are due.

Correction, I don't believe these planes will stay parked for very long