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1) Fred Garvin . . . . Male Prostitute . . . . . . . . . . . . (for ladies only, sorry, Rez). 2) Cowbell usage consultant 3) Internet Marketing Guru
 
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I have lived most of my life considering what I would do if the world, as I knew it, went to hell. After many years of wasteful worry and trying to apply logic to folks that exist without it, I have chosen to live until I die. My realm of expertise is within the walls of a simulator, cockpit, or bathroom stall (excluding MSP). Outside of those locales, my opinion, thoughts, judgements are futile and my efforts to rearrange things are a distraction from my family and my time which are too important to sacrifice.

My backup will be decided when the need arises to have one. As a result of being poor for the first ten years of my aviation journey, my default emotion is worry and strategic planning. Given our environment and the state of ethics in this country, I will continue to enjoy myself, responsibly, until the status quo changes. I have turned FNC, MSNBC, and CNN off. My television experience is now relegated to Little Bear, Franklin, or the Wiggles. Life is too short to give a %#$@ about matters that do not require your input or consideration. They will be what they will be.

Don't spend money like you're in the NBA, save a little, invest a little, and enjoy your life. The circumstances surrounding GoJets, Freedom, Skybus, Virgin, etc......who cares? What will you do about it if you have the opportunity? My guess is little. Life is full of choices; so let people make them and therefore, live with them.

Dude...

That's great advice! I agree, turn off the TV, and all is well.

On a serious note, I have been brushing up on my strip club announcer lines. Here is what I have so far:

"Guys, put your hands together, and give it up for Tabatha"

"Each, and everyone of these ladies is available for your very own fantasy dance"

"These girls work for tips, and tips alone"

"Guys remember the touch, and go policy is in effect...You touch, you go"
 
Dude...

That's great advice! I agree, turn off the TV, and all is well.

On a serious note, I have been brushing up on my strip club announcer lines. Here is what I have so far:

"Guys, put your hands together, and give it up for Tabatha"

"Each, and everyone of these ladies is available for your very own fantasy dance"

"These girls work for tips, and tips alone"

"Guys remember the touch, and go policy is in effect...You touch, you go"

"Let's put it together for Porsche, Mercedes and Ferrarri!.
 
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Maybe. How's your primary "pro bono F&H" job?





Amazing....

So you advocate your jobs being eliminated based on free market forces. You don't mind starting over as many times as the free market can recycle you.

And when you get laid off again and again, you want nothing from gov't. No job retraining, no loans, nothing...

Being an Air Line Pilot is not an asset to our nations economy? You like be equated to a hotel maid.



Chickens voting for Frank Purdue....


Hey Rez, out of curiosity, have you ever been furloughed?

Jimcav, I'm right there with you man! You've got the right idea!
 
Wow!

This isn't even close to 9/12/01 and the next few years after that.

Get back to us after 3 years... I think you will find that you were mistaken..... The industry has never seen oil do anything like this-until it stabilizes, all bets are off.

-This will do very bad damage if it lasts long
 
displaced 2x, furloughed 2x.

Fair enough, not fun huh? Even tough I disagree with some things you say it's hard to criticize another Jetsteam guy!:beer:

As to the backup plans, let me say backup careers suck. I've done it and do not want to do it again. Even with a quality college education, good jobs are hard to find. Mine was in finance, not the money you'd expect. Plus a lot of paper pushing, although I was home every night.
 
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This isn't even close to 9/12/01 and the next few years after that.


WRONG!! In 9 to 12 months ALL airlines WILL be bankrupt, unless the economics change.

The lone possible exception is SWA, although even they are running scared.

I have to wonder when a program like the ATFSB (Air Transport Fuel Stabilization Board) gets formed.

Seriously it's that bad.
 
This isn't even close to 9/12/01 and the next few years after that.

Uh, I doubt it. Back then the "airline business model" at least had $25 a barrell Crude Oil to fall back on.

http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/international/crude1.html

In 1998, the last known "airline hiring boom" (I may be off a year +/-), Crude Oil was $9 to $12 a barrel !!!

Crude Oil is now $120, per http://www.nymex.com/index.aspx

Crude is ten times+ what it was 10 years ago (1998). If we continue this cycle, in 10 more years, if it ONLY doubled (to $240), we should all high-five each other.
 
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I have lived most of my life considering what I would do if the world, as I knew it, went to hell. After many years of wasteful worry and trying to apply logic to folks that exist without it, I have chosen to live until I die. My realm of expertise is within the walls of a simulator, cockpit, or bathroom stall (excluding MSP). Outside of those locales, my opinion, thoughts, judgements are futile and my efforts to rearrange things are a distraction from my family and my time which are too important to sacrifice.

My backup will be decided when the need arises to have one. As a result of being poor for the first ten years of my aviation journey, my default emotion is worry and strategic planning. Given our environment and the state of ethics in this country, I will continue to enjoy myself, responsibly, until the status quo changes. I have turned FNC, MSNBC, and CNN off. My television experience is now relegated to Little Bear, Franklin, or the Wiggles. Life is too short to give a %#$@ about matters that do not require your input or consideration. They will be what they will be.

Don't spend money like you're in the NBA, save a little, invest a little, and enjoy your life. The circumstances surrounding GoJets, Freedom, Skybus, Virgin, etc......who cares? What will you do about it if you have the opportunity? My guess is little. Life is full of choices; so let people make them and therefore, live with them.

Dude, that is one of the best posts I have read on this board to date.
 
I've flipped some houses in the past. D@mn! they've screwed that one up too! Since I live in Nevada, I could open a brothel. Help me out guy's - I'll need to staff it so send me the phone # of every slu, uh make that "loose woman" you know.
 
Question is just what it says...yes, I know we are Pilots forever and we can't leave the blue yonder, the friendly skies, etc etc blah blah. For some the sky is the limit, for us the sky is home, etc etc ad nauseum.

Now, back to reality, paying the rent and light bill dictate otherwise, and reality sets in. Only so many ex-ATA/Spriit/EOS/Aloha/Frontier etc pilots (read: all airline equipment) can go to FlexJets or SWA.

FedEx and UPS ain't hiring.

What is everyones back-up plan? Is it temporary/between airline jobs or will it be permanent?

Discuss....this is arguably the WORST era of commerical aviation job/career prospects and security in history.

Midget porn pays good I've heard. The porn industry is always growing, lot's of pilots at the hotel just "surfing" the net LOL
 
I guess I would choose to become bitter and cling to my religion and my guns.

Would that require me to relocate to PA?


Nice...LOL...comrade obama at his finest.



My serious back up plan is move to Alaska. Fly a Bush plane and find myself a place to drill for oil in ANWR

Until then burn gas, wood, oil, paper and get some food storage.
 

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