Is Pinnacle still hiring street captains?

[Freight Dog]

I keep seeing how they advertising for the fastest upgrade. Is that still the case? Also, is there a training contract?

Yes, I saw all those "Friends don't let friends fly for PCL" messages, etc. I'm just trying to develop a picture. Reality of unemployment is starting to set in.

 

[labbats]

It's a fast track to captain, not street captain.

Difference being thousands of dollars when you get the first year FO pay during training and the first 100 hours flying, then CA training until completion of IOE months later.

Pinnacle is shaky to boot. I'd suggest peeking overseas if I were in your shoes. Best of luck regardless.

 

[DoinTime]

It's a fast track to captain, not street captain.

Difference being thousands of dollars when you get the first year FO pay during training and the first 100 hours flying, then CA training until completion of IOE months later.

Pinnacle is shaky to boot. I'd suggest peeking overseas if I were in your shoes. Best of luck regardless.

Whoa now.....who said anything about getting paid while in training?

 

[Freight Dog]

So realistically, how long from new hire FO pay to captain pay?

Thanks for the replies, fellas!

 

[Smarta$$]

Whoa now.....who said anything about getting paid while in training?

Yeah no kidding.

Seriously, You will get FO pay for a minimum of about 6 months from when you start before captain pay would begin. You will be on reserve forever with the worst reserve rules this side of mesa. Plus only ten days off a month.

Most of us are actually wondering if this place will be around much longer. This management is actually trying to drive this place off a cliff. It is the ONE thing they are good at.

If you have no other options, maybe. I know you are coming from a tough situtation.

Mesaba has very fast upgrades right now as well. Far better company. They will prolly weather this storm better also.

 

[pilotbrain]

They also fail 75 percent of the Capain's upgrades....that includes guys that have been flying at Pinnacle for several years.

I was told if you come here and you bust your upgrade inside a year that you will be let go because you are still on probation.

That is enough to keep me away.

 

[Flybet3]

I keep seeing how they advertising for the fastest upgrade. Is that still the case? Also, is there a training contract?

Yes, I saw all those "Friends don't let friends fly for PCL" messages, etc. I'm just trying to develop a picture. Reality of unemployment is starting to set in.

Come over to Mesaba! F------ PINNACLE!

 

[Lazy8]

So realistically, how long from new hire FO pay to captain pay?

Thanks for the replies, fellas!

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Keep looking unless you want to have the worst QOL imaginable.

 

[silver02ex]

They also fail 75 percent of the Capain's upgrades....that includes guys that have been flying at Pinnacle for several years.

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Unless something has change in the last 3 months 75% fail is not correct. I was in upgrade Dec-Jan. Everyone in my class and the class ahead and behind mine has a 100% pass rate.

 

[Rook]

Come over to Mesaba! F------ PINNACLE!

XJ's a good company, but he will be a jet CA quicker if he goes to 9E. Do you even have a year on property yet as an SF3 street guy? Why all the hate

 

[PCL_128]

They also fail 75 percent of the Capain's upgrades.

No, that's only for your fellow GoJet pilots. They're good at weeding you out.

 

[Flyer1015]

If you live in base, I think it's good. Reserve was great for me, living in base at Pinnacle. It didn't matter to me if they used/flew me or not. If I did, great; if not, great, I was at home anyway.

My moral of the story is come to Pinnacle if you live in base.

 

[machaf]

My moral of the story is come to Pinnacle if you live in base.

I hope you're joking. 9E is a dump. Not much better than Mesa. You get abused on reserve.

 

[CrownandCoke]

I hope you're joking. 9E is a dump. Not much better than Mesa. You get abused on reserve.

still ridin Genital Lee?

 

[Windsor]

6-7 months of F.O "pay" is to be expected. They were paying $400 a week till you pass checkride. Then you take paycut to F.O pay. If you have the time, bid for CA right away, you may get it on the first vacancy, you may not. The 100 hours has been soft for guys with previous CRJ time.

Plan on 2 mos for initial, 2 weeks for F.O IOE, 1.5 mos. on the line, 1 month for upgrade, 1 month for CA IOE, then you get CA Pay.

 

[Lear70]

Reserve anywhere sucks. I did it for 3 years at PCL.

PCL reserve is especially egregious because of the airport appreciation reserve (airport ready reserve) up to 9 hours long EVERY DAY, supposedly sit in the footprint of the crew area (although I never did unless I was watching a movie or surfing the internet anyway), and 15 minute get-to-your-airplane callouts (even though the contract didn't provide for anything that fast).

If I'd have lived in base or they'd only done it on the 1st and last day (like when I started there), would have been a SOMEWHAT different story, as I only flew about 12 days a month, and home most nights would be nice, but it's pretty bad.

Look for reserve times to creep upward again as major airline hiring stops, growth isn't what it was when I was there, and F/O's will start getting the time again, upgrade ahead of you, and you'll fester at the bottom of the CA list.

Just a reality check. If you need a job that bad, it's livable if you move to your domicile. Personally, I'm only getting 9 days off a month, just like I would be if I'd come back to PCL, making $70k a year, picking my own hotels, and having a blast flying a Lear around the World (we do a lot of international flying, it's fun).

If anyone furloughed (permanently or tempo - sun country) has a Lear or Falcon type, PM me for info on flying for Kalitta. Might not be the best gig in the world, but it's better than PCL (IMHO).

Skybus pilots need not bother.

 

[PCL_128]

Not sure if it's changed now, but the company wasn't using ready reserve when I left. In fact, they hadn't been using it in a while. Any PCL guys know whether it's made a return?

 

[Dirty Sanchez]

Only FAs have ready reserve. Otherwise it is 1.5 hour call-out.

 

[Windsor]

Not a lot of ready rsv. Its there, but usually only for short durations, 4 hrs at night. I know guys that commute use it to their advantage. They ask for RR on their first day of rsv so they dont have to commute in till the afternoon. Then use AM Rsv on the last day so they can commute home.

 

[MACH-TUCK]

Ready Reserve was around last summer. I think it was mostly PM RR though, to cover the highspeeders.

 

[Lear70]

You guys don't know how good you have it without daily RR...

Good to hear, sounds like things are better over there on the reserve side.