Can a pilot upgrade a Pax?

[Rally]

Who really controls the cabin? Is it ultimately the Captain? Like Pax upgrades and denial for boarding etc. Just curious.

 

[Mike man]

What airline?

I'm pretty sure it all depends on the airline...for example AA has a line drawn from the cockpit door forward that the pilots control and from the door back that the FA's control...unless the airplane is at a gate then the gate agent controls it...for the most part anyway.

 

[BigMotorToter]

At TWA the Captain could upgrade anyone he wanted. A true Captains airline. I think there is less and less of that now anywhere.

 

[viper548]

I don't know if I'm allowed to but I upgrade people. It's almost always troops going to or from Iraq that I upgrade

 

[Ridgeback]

The Captain is the FINAL authority in the airplane...he could have the FO ride in the lav if he wanted

 

[Skybus]

You keep telling yourself that pal.

 

[BlueandWhite]

The Captain is the FINAL authority in the airplane...he could have the FO ride in the lav if he wanted

Yep, you can do anything you want as a captain....just be prepared to justify it when you land.:erm:

 

[Helos2Galaxy]

Touchy, but if there is a good repoire (?) between the front and the cabin, it can happen.

Agents have their rules and won't upgrade.

If a friend (rev pax) is in the back, you can ASK the Lead F/A if its OK. They'll usually say OK if the plane was going out w/ room in front.

 

[hockeypilot44]

Captains don't have the authority they used to; do they?

 

[BLing]

Over a year ago I was jumpseating along with an American MD80 FO on a United 757 out of OMA. The other guy and me were the last ones to board. We were issued seats in the back, but as always we made our way to the cockpit to introduce ourselves and make sure it was okay to hop a ride to ORD.

The CA was a great guy who told us to grab seats in first class. The whole first class was open, so we thanked the CA and sat up front... Well, the gate agent came on board and saw that and freaked out. She yelled a us and the FA's who were apparently new hires. Well, we were forced to go sit in our assigned seats.

Im sure the CA would have wanted us to tell him about this gate agent. However, we were guests on the airplane and didnt feel it was right to cause a sceen and stir up more drama. We figured it was best just to have the flight go out on time.

Looking back, maybe we should have told the CA? I know that I would have wanted to know if I were him. This gate agent in OMA does have a reputation amongst most commuters. It would have been nice to see her put in her place!

As of now (well, its been about a year since I've commuted out of there), but this one gate agent in OMA has the final authority!

 

[Bavarian Chef]

I was waiting for someone to bring up the United gate agents.

I don't commute out of Dulles on United anymore, but when I did, I always came to the gate armed with a refreshingly cold bottled water, a skinny latte from Starbucks, two dozen banana chocolate chip muffins that my wife just pulled outta the oven, $1000 in German Bearer Bonds and the pocket version of "How to Speak Indian and Pakistani" and despite all that, they still acted like I was trying to push a universal health care bill or kyoto accord through Congress.

It's almost comical. Almost.

 

[PCL_128]

Touchy, but if there is a good repoire (?) between the front and the cabin, it can happen.

Agents have their rules and won't upgrade.

If a friend (rev pax) is in the back, you can ASK the Lead F/A if its OK. They'll usually say OK if the plane was going out w/ room in front.

What airlines are you guys working for? Ask the stews? Are you kidding me?

 

[michael707767]

I have upgraded people. Mostly military guys and gals (I always put the lowest ranking person in first class) and one time we had a couple on their honeymoon. First class had two open seats so I had the FAs move em up.

 

[frog_flyer]

"uhhh, yeah. We need to make some seating changes for W&B. Let's move 28B up to First class. Thanks"

 

[Redmeat]

What airlines are you guys working for? Ask the stews? Are you kidding me?

You came from Pinnacle and things are a bit different at regionals (the FA's couldn't find their ass with both hands and a flashlight). You gotta remember that some senior mommas at NW started out on DC-6's.

You don't give orders to these gals trust me.

At NW the cabin 'technically' belongs to the Lead FA.

Yes if it came down to a knock down drag out the CA would prevail...but trust me it wouldn't be worth it.