ASA to fly additional 4 CRJ200's

[Medeco]

According to Brad's update.

We take the last 2 700's in April, that had been put off, then he slipped in the part about 4 200's beginning in May to be flon mostly in Florida.

I loved Tampa and Orlando a couple years ago.

Medeco

 

[McNugent]

Gotta love the Fat Tire. Greatest Beer on earth

 

[XPOO]

Too bad its made in Colorado with the same crap they make Coors Light from and not in Belgium as the bottle would lead you to believe.

 

[McNugent]

I don't care where it's made as long as it's good going down. Plus we can't get it out east so that makes me want it even more.

 

[Jon Rivoli]

to be flon mostly in Florida.

Displacing Freedom?

 

[Oakum_Boy]

Tampa rocked. No ghetto Atlanta ramp and fewer fat and ugly Americans clogging up the concourse.

 

[ifly4food]

Amen to that!

 

[USCtrojan]

Gotta love the Fat Tire. Greatest Beer on earth

Fat Tire my Favorite Nuge! I can't seem to find any East of the Mississippi though. Just one of the many reasons to live WEST! ;-) Gotta love those Colorado Beers!

Trojan

 

[ParrotheadGTI]

any chance this is going to be a permanent addition, or just something temporary?

 

[FL990]

However, according to the memo that SH put out to us a few days back, our block hours over the summer on the 200 and 700 will be about the same as they were in Feb....yet we are getting more aircraft...doesn't make much sense...which is par for the course I guess.

 

[172Junky]

Maybe ASA would get more business if it served Fat Tire on its flights

 

[Stifler's Mom]

ASA is preparing itself to move in on any markets that Mesa leaves open if/when it goes under.

Just another reason we need to show the industry that under new leadership we are no longer the ASA of old.

 

[79%N1]

But we were last again in D0 yesterday for all DCI and second to last in completion and arrivals. For all the back-slapping they do at the GO, our D0 nombers are still extremely lousy compared to all the other DCI's.

 

[Medeco]

But we were last again in D0 yesterday for all DCI and second to last in completion and arrivals. For all the back-slapping they do at the GO, our D0 nombers are still extremely lousy compared to all the other DCI's.

There is little more to it than that, but I agree we need to pick it up.

I hope all Captains remember that we now make more money if we go above and beyond. We have meny factors working against us, but based on current feedback we are getting, our management knows the pilots arent the only cause to a delay.

Medeco

 

[USCtrojan]

But we were last again in D0 yesterday for all DCI and second to last in completion and arrivals. For all the back-slapping they do at the GO, our D0 nombers are still extremely lousy compared to all the other DCI's.

Weather through ATL was pretty nasty yesterday. I like when they adjust everything due to ATC and WX. It goes way up then.

Trojan

 

[McNugent]

I'd think the fact that almost 100% of our ops flows through ATL has something to do with those numbers too. Think about it. They are comparing our performance to the other airlines who have a greater number of ops in CVG, SLC, LAX, MCO etc... We have issues in ATL that we have to deal with a lot more than say SKW in SLC that hurt our performance.

 

[wmuflyguy]

I'd think the fact that almost 100% of our ops flows through ATL has something to do with those numbers too. Think about it. They are comparing our performance to the other airlines who have a greater number of ops in CVG, SLC, LAX, MCO etc... We have issues in ATL that we have to deal with a lot more than say SKW in SLC that hurt our performance.

Other airlines also operate more out of JFK and LGA...which is delayed much more often than ATL.

 

[FL990]

I'd think the fact that almost 100% of our ops flows through ATL has something to do with those numbers too. Think about it. They are comparing our performance to the other airlines who have a greater number of ops in CVG, SLC, LAX, MCO etc... We have issues in ATL that we have to deal with a lot more than say SKW in SLC that hurt our performance.

You are correct. When comparing our numbers, it is important to compare them to Delta and DCI within the ATL system. I cannot speak for our current numbers when compared to other DCI carriers in ATL, but I can speak for a comparison with Delta...and overall, we are very comperable. Our A14 numbers (which is all that counts...remember, D0 was an initiative to achieve A0...or A14, which is what matters) we're right in line with Delta in ATL.

Also, another thing that can help is saving fuel. We need to be doing everything we can to conserve. We have to get out of the mindset of "its just a few pounds of fuel...it's not going to make a difference." EVERY POUND COUNTS! We need to be single engine taxing, shutting down APU's at the gate (when possible) and on taxi out after both engines are running, and flying the profile speeds (premium is gone now so there really is no benifit to going really fast)! Fuel costs are crucial...especially on the RJ which has a relatively high fuel/seat ratio.

 

[McNugent]

Other airlines also operate more out of JFK and LGA...which is delayed much more often than ATL.

True, but a very small amout of their overall flying is done out of those airpors. Comair for example may do a bunch of flights out of LGA and JFK everyday, but their NYC operations have nothing on CVG, where those performance numbers can pick up the slack. Also the LGA/JFK delays are almost always ATC delays, which I believe can be "adjusted" to bring up the performance numbers for the day.

ASA always performs very well in CVG, but we are marginal in ATL, due to the other issues that are unique to ATL. We may only do 5-10% (just a guess) of our overall daily ops out of CVG so we are stuck with the crappy ATL performance (which is slowly getting better) to bring our overall total down for the day.

 

[Prefrock1]

Nuge you need to hop on some TPA flights, nothing like fishing and bloomin onions

 

[McNugent]

Yeah I suppose I need to come check out that new boat of yours

 

[~~~^~~~]

Sigh....

ASA is getting flying because SkyWest negotiated provisions in their asset purchase agreement that sets the floor on how little flying Delta has to buy.

As Delta reduces domestic capacity they are forced to reduce flying with airlines that do not have the favorable contract standing SkyWest enjoys. That even means reducing their own airline, Comair.

This is not "new growth." Quite the opposite. If they had a choice, they wouldn't. But with the ATR going away ASA may have fallen below the contractual minimums.

Performance numbers have to do with how much bonus money SkyWest recieves, in addition to, the minimum contract rates. Performance numbers might have some relevance at contract renewal time, but if you look at past history, they have not when it concerns ASA.

- Sigh

 

[Medeco]

I didnt consider it New Growth. Its additional CRJ200's.

Its overall meaning can be looked at from several perspectives. You touched on most of them.

The unknown about which DCI carriers will be left standing after the fallout of the "new business plan" and the probability of 4 DCI carriers remaining after things get hammered out, keeps everyone guessing on who will grow and who will not.

Obviously, Skywest Inc. has 12yrs remaining on the DCI contract, but there is always a way to throw it out the window.


Medeco

 

[sweptback]

Is it additional airplanes, or 4 airplanes "worth" of new flying?

Currently we have something like 115 CR2s, but on a given day only 100 are actually flying.

 

[Flybywire44]

Those numbers definitely don't represent the full picture. ATL takes a ground delay and its our ATRs that are first to get an hour ground delay which screws us up for the day.

 

[JumpersAway]

New flying, Old flying, any flying- Will someone please reinstitute the previous bid award. Damn, I just lost my 75 inch plasma......and some sanity.

 

[JoeMerchant]

Sigh....

ASA is getting flying because SkyWest negotiated provisions in their asset purchase agreement that sets the floor on how little flying Delta has to buy.

As Delta reduces domestic capacity they are forced to reduce flying with airlines that do not have the favorable contract standing SkyWest enjoys. That even means reducing their own airline, Comair.

This is not "new growth." Quite the opposite. If they had a choice, they wouldn't. But with the ATR going away ASA may have fallen below the contractual minimums.

Performance numbers have to do with how much bonus money SkyWest recieves, in addition to, the minimum contract rates. Performance numbers might have some relevance at contract renewal time, but if you look at past history, they have not when it concerns ASA.

- Sigh

.....why the "sigh"....?

 

[atlcrjdriver]

Is it additional airplanes, or 4 airplanes "worth" of new flying?

Currently we have something like 115 CR2s, but on a given day only 100 are actually flying.

This will be 4 A/C worth of flying. The only new airframes are the 2 CR7s coming next month. If the ATRs go away, there will be a net loss of airframes on property.

 

[777forever]

This will be 4 A/C worth of flying. The only new airframes are the 2 CR7s coming next month. If the ATRs go away, there will be a net loss of airframes on property.

Hence it was a pretty good idea to get hiring slowed down, ASA has to get about 100 ATR guys jet trained. And they were already backed up in the sims to begin with.

 

[ASA_Aviator]

However, according to the memo that SH put out to us a few days back, our block hours over the summer on the 200 and 700 will be about the same as they were in Feb....yet we are getting more aircraft...doesn't make much sense...which is par for the course I guess.

The flying Brad was talking about was discussed after the memo put out by Scott. His memo didn't take into account any of the new flying in Florida.