Delta NYC MD-88 or 767

[Monster Buck]

Which to choose as new hire, if looking to commute to NYC from DTW and want to get as many days at home as soon as possible? IE... A line with max days off and commutable at least on one end the soonest. I don't have a pref of one ac or another, just the most days at home for the next few years, for family needs. Any new york new guys that can help? Thanks in advance!

 

[General Lee]

Which to choose as new hire, if looking to commute to NYC from DTW and want to get as many days at home as soon as possible? IE... A line with max days off and commutable at least on one end the soonest. I don't have a pref of one ac or another, just the most days at home for the next few years, for family needs. Any new york new guys that can help? Thanks in advance!

You will be a lineholder sooner on the MD88. The trips won't be as interesting, but reserve-wise you will be off sooner, and you won't have to deal with 8 24 hour short call reserve days per month. The MD88 does fly out of all 3 NYC area airports, though, I believe. But, as a line holder, you can choose which trips you want. If you want QOL sooner, pick the MD88.

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[naglasair1]

I would pick the MD-88. It would give you more days at the "dale" for dragin those injured bucks

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[PaulFooley]

I was a June '07 hire, NYC MD88. I finished IOE mid-August and could have held a line by November (but bid reserve until December because I needed some specific days off.) As a line-holder, I've gotten no fewer than 16 days off with credit in the high 70s-low 80s. I doubt it will be such quick progression for someone starting now, but I think the MD is still your best bet for quickest return to decent QOL.

Currently, no trips begin or end in EWR so getting sent there would only be to cover a sick crewmember or otherwise broken trip. Most trips begin and end in LGA so a pad near that terminal would work out best, particularly for your commute from DTW.

Furthermore, I can't say enough positive things about the quality of captains I've flown with in NYC on the 88.

If I were to do it over again, I'd do it the same.

Good luck.

 

[Monster Buck]

Thanks man, I appreciate it.

 

[Capt. Caucasian]

I don't want to sound like I am bragging but, I sat reserve for two months on the ER and then got a line. Moving pretty quickly but, as the other guy said I doubt it will be as fast for those coming on now.

 

[wings421]

For the 88 line holders, I've heard that the days you work and the days you are off might not be in blocks?

Meaning, might work two off one, work three off two, etc... vs working four or five then having three to four off making commuting a real chore. Is that correct?

 

[Monster Buck]

I don't want to sound like I am bragging but, I sat reserve for two months on the ER and then got a line. Moving pretty quickly but, as the other guy said I doubt it will be as fast for those coming on now.

Why do you think that? I hope it stays good, I was at the interview just this week and they said there will definately be several hundred coming in behind us, easy. Most all going to the 76 and MD 88 NYC. Do you think thats cool aid? I don't know probably as good as you, since you are in the mix already but they seemed sincere. Either way I am happier than a puppy with two peters so it doesn't really matter!

 

[Helos2Galaxy]

Line holder on the 88 w/ in 2-4 months. No EWR originating trips. Take the 88, fly alot, learn the company and procedures. You get to be really proficient. Try for longer trips as a commuter. Seniority in NY occurs quickly. You'd be top 30 of 70 by 1-2 entitlements due to people bidding to the ER or ATL.

Line holder on the 767ER will be YEARS. Not a decent way to be a new hire.

I am a 2000 hire and camping on the 88 until I can hold the left seat again (passed it by a couple of bids ago; it went senior last AE). I love the schedules

 

[Capt. Caucasian]

Line holder on the 767ER will be YEARS. Not a decent way to be a new hire.

See my above post. Held a line in two months on the NYC ER. Seventeen days off too. Needless to say, I'm ecstatic!

 

[General Lee]

See my above post. Held a line in two months on the NYC ER. Seventeen days off too. Needless to say, I'm ecstatic!

You probably have a lot of 2 man crew flights to SNN and MAN, but that's all good too. I love Ireland and England any time of the year.

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[Capt. Caucasian]

You probably have a lot of 2 man crew flights to SNN and MAN, but that's all good too. I love Ireland and England any time of the year.

Bye Bye--General Lee

No way dude. Six day Paris (thru CVG, looking forward to the Millenium. My last airline got kicked out), four day Sao Paulo (at least it's cheap down there), and a three day Madrid. Six days off separating each rotation too. Now, you can go look through the line awards and you can find out who I am .

I have yet to go to a country where I speak the native language. Kinda looking forward to that as well. At least before I get back to ATL domestic.

 

[sabreliner]

For the 88 line holders, I've heard that the days you work and the days you are off might not be in blocks?

Meaning, might work two off one, work three off two, etc... vs working four or five then having three to four off making commuting a real chore. Is that correct?

Yes and no... It depends on how you bid. My first month I was a line holder, and had a schedule that was like you refer to.

However, I was then told about a handy PBS feature called Pattern Bid. You can use that to avoid a choppy schedule and get for instance 3-4 days on followed by 3-4 days off. You just have to be careful you don't ask for too much. It is always the first thing in your bid, and will blow out all your other requests to follow whatever pattern you tell it to. Get greedy and I'm told you'll get hosed.

 

[Gunfighter]

Which to choose as new hire, if looking to commute to NYC from DTW and want to get as many days at home as soon as possible?

The ER may take a month or two longer for a line, but the trips are almost all commutable on both ends. The ER trips leave in the afternoon to evening and return early to late afternoon.

 

[another cfii]

Isn't the JFK 7ER is gonna start doing Heathrow and other stuff that would have earlier show than noon?

 

[PeanuckleCRJ]

I'm still twitching over whether or not i should have bid up to NYC for the ER this round. I would be bidding around 70% up there as a Feb 07 newbie.

I'll be borderline lineholder in my current place on the ATL767 at around 85%.


I did the MD-88 shuttle for a couple months out of NYC- commuting out of DTW no less. It wasn't half bad. There isn't much competition for the jumpseat. The only pain is the last flight out of LGA to DTW is around 1930... about the same for JFK. Plus, JFK is a Comair flight and thus super unreliable like most of the DCI operation.

Regardless, the NYC MD-88 is a great experience. I learned so much about the DL operation so quickly....even with only 115 hours in the airplane before I got pulled to go fly my dream birds.

 

[Monster Buck]

I'm still twitching over whether or not i should have bid up to NYC for the ER this round. I would be bidding around 70% up there as a Feb 07 newbie.

I'll be borderline lineholder in my current place on the ATL767 at around 85%.


I did the MD-88 shuttle for a couple months out of NYC- commuting out of DTW no less. It wasn't half bad. There isn't much competition for the jumpseat. The only pain is the last flight out of LGA to DTW is around 1930... about the same for JFK. Plus, JFK is a Comair flight and thus super unreliable like most of the DCI operation.

Regardless, the NYC MD-88 is a great experience. I learned so much about the DL operation so quickly....even with only 115 hours in the airplane before I got pulled to go fly my dream birds.

Did you mostly just take NWA to LGA with a couple of back-ups. Did it work well or was it a little stressfull. Thanks!

Also do any of you guys see, with the change of the seasons, bottom line holders on the 76 out of NYC having lines then loosing them due to senior guys taking res. for certain reasons or reduced scheds?

 

[jke406]

Also do any of you guys see, with the change of the seasons, bottom line holders on the 76 out of NYC having lines then loosing them due to senior guys taking res. for certain reasons or reduced scheds?

That happens at any airline on any equipment, doesn't it?