Captains that say "I'm laid back"

[Captzaahlie]

I'm laid-back when it's my leg...

I'm by the book when it's yours...

Now where's my coffee? Two creams - Three sugars...

Any questions?

Love it!

 

[Flash]

If you're all trained to a standard than a cockpit pre brief is not necessary.

 

[Flyerdan]

I'm laid-back when it's my leg...

I'm by the book when it's yours...

Now where's my coffee? Two creams - Three sugars...

Any questions?

Yes, straight spit or nice thick lugie with that?

 

[ASAFOE120]

This is what I tell all my FO's:
"There are only 3 things I want to hear out of you for the next 4 days: clear right, you're right, and I'll take the fat."

OVER

 

[Mookie]

cool captains don't have to say anything...they just are.

best type of captain? consistent. even the one's who are anal. if you know what you're dealing with on a consistent basis, it doesn't matter what the guy/girl are like.

mookie

 

[Oakum_Boy]

"Do as I say, not as I do."

 

[jea]

cool captains don't have to say anything...they just are.

best type of captain? consistent. even the one's who are anal. if you know what you're dealing with on a consistent basis, it doesn't matter what the guy/girl are like.

mookie

Mookie hit it right on the head... predictable and consistent

 

[CFI2766]

Nah, you've all got it wrong. The best captains are the ones who understand the plight of the newhire FO. All this sim stuff, and 121 flying, is very confusing. Everyone knows it's the captain's job to really teach the FOs how to be a pilot. Let's face it, the instrument rating and checkride was really just an afternoon of paperwork down in Florida; we can't possibly be expected to know anything about instrument flying, can we? No way, it's definately the captain's job to teach us all there is to know about flying, and instrument flying in particular. As a matter of fact, I for one think that there should be no 'training department', per se'. Nope, the most effective policy would be for captains to be paired with newhire FOs from the get-go. This would save money on training costs that could be directly applied to the newhire FOs paycheck. In fact, I really think that while during this training period, I think 12 months ought to do it, the FO should be paid more than the captain. Really, it's a lot more work to be the FO; add the extra stress involved with all this learning and putting up with all these 'uptight' captains, and it really makes sense that the captains should make, well, maybe 60% of what the FOs make.

Just a modest proposal, what do you 4-stripers think?

 

[CFI2766]

cool captains don't have to say anything...they just are.

best type of captain? consistent. even the one's who are anal. if you know what you're dealing with on a consistent basis, it doesn't matter what the guy/girl are like.

mookie

+1 on this. Well said.

 

[flyf15]

Nah, you've all got it wrong. The best captains are the ones who understand the plight of the newhire FO. All this sim stuff, and 121 flying, is very confusing. Everyone knows it's the captain's job to really teach the FOs how to be a pilot. Let's face it, the instrument rating and checkride was really just an afternoon of paperwork down in Florida; we can't possibly be expected to know anything about instrument flying, can we? No way, it's definately the captain's job to teach us all there is to know about flying, and instrument flying in particular. As a matter of fact, I for one think that there should be no 'training department', per se'. Nope, the most effective policy would be for captains to be paired with newhire FOs from the get-go. This would save money on training costs that could be directly applied to the newhire FOs paycheck. In fact, I really think that while during this training period, I think 12 months ought to do it, the FO should be paid more than the captain. Really, it's a lot more work to be the FO; add the extra stress involved with all this learning and putting up with all these 'uptight' captains, and it really makes sense that the captains should make, well, maybe 60% of what the FOs make.

Just a modest proposal, what do you 4-stripers think?

The captain's job is to be a pilot for the company and PIC of the aircraft. Though they may be very effective flight instructors and I admire those who are, its not what a captain is there to do. Its not the main part of their job description. If you're gonna do that, put the money saved in the captain's paycheck, not the FO's.

In fact, if a newhire FO goes all the way through general aviation training, gets interviewed, hired, and completes airline training yet still is not able to act as a required crewmember, they shouldn't be there. A part 121 airliner is not a basic aircraft and you shouldn't be receiving basic flight instruction in it. You should already know what you're doing by the time you sit down in one. Sure, there is going to be adjustment to the nature of the operation, learning technique for the aircraft, etc, but thats different than learning how to be an instrument pilot.

Those captains just look like they're not working as hard because they're experienced and know what they're doing. Captains are paid more because their a** is the one on the line. They're the ones who are making the tough decisions and the ones who have to answer for them later.

 

[PCL_128]

flyf15, the key to his post is the last line: "a modest proposal."

Google it.

 

[navigatro]

I prefer boxers to briefs.

 

[zawillif]

"I'm pretty laid back. . but I'll only let you run the radar when there isn't a cloud in the sky. . regardless of who's leg it is . . regardless of your upgrade class in 2 months."

 

[vectorvictor]

I like getting a brief before I fly with someone for the first time. It's nice to know what to expect.

Okay so here's the plan see.....were going to fly this plane from here to there, land at some airport, drink some brews, chase some tail, get up and do it all over again. Any questions?

 

[vectorvictor]

The captain's job is to be a pilot for the company and PIC of the aircraft. Though they may be very effective flight instructors and I admire those who are, its not what a captain is there to do. Its not the main part of their job description. If you're gonna do that, put the money saved in the captain's paycheck, not the FO's.

In fact, if a newhire FO goes all the way through general aviation training, gets interviewed, hired, and completes airline training yet still is not able to act as a required crewmember, they shouldn't be there. A part 121 airliner is not a basic aircraft and you shouldn't be receiving basic flight instruction in it. You should already know what you're doing by the time you sit down in one. Sure, there is going to be adjustment to the nature of the operation, learning technique for the aircraft, etc, but thats different than learning how to be an instrument pilot.

Those captains just look like they're not working as hard because they're experienced and know what they're doing. Captains are paid more because their a** is the one on the line. They're the ones who are making the tough decisions and the ones who have to answer for them later.

Dude, you are totally not laid back.

 

[DrewBlows]

The captain's job is to be a pilot for the company and PIC of the aircraft. Though they may be very effective flight instructors and I admire those who are, its not what a captain is there to do. Its not the main part of their job description. If you're gonna do that, put the money saved in the captain's paycheck, not the FO's.

In fact, if a newhire FO goes all the way through general aviation training, gets interviewed, hired, and completes airline training yet still is not able to act as a required crewmember, they shouldn't be there. A part 121 airliner is not a basic aircraft and you shouldn't be receiving basic flight instruction in it. You should already know what you're doing by the time you sit down in one. Sure, there is going to be adjustment to the nature of the operation, learning technique for the aircraft, etc, but thats different than learning how to be an instrument pilot.

Those captains just look like they're not working as hard because they're experienced and know what they're doing. Captains are paid more because their a** is the one on the line. They're the ones who are making the tough decisions and the ones who have to answer for them later.

Somebody doesn't understand sarcasm.

 

[DOVPILOT]

laid back=anal "daft" prick

 

[Whataburger]

Now where's my coffee? Two creams - Three sugars...

Any questions?

dang. Might as well order ice cream and sprinkle coffee grounds on top.

Dont say
1. Late, Lost, Fire, or Fcuk.
2. Do you drink?
3. My leg.

 

[landlover]

this airlane that runway, lets make some money. go fast and pull back. any question?

 

[COOPERVANE]

my favorite brief from a captain?

"I am an FFDO. If anyone tries to breach the cockpit, I will defend it. You will fly the plane and talk on the radio. If you attempt to open the cockpit door in this scenerio, I am authorized to SHOOT YOU"

No kidding

 

[regionaltard]

my favorite brief from a captain?

"I am an FFDO. If anyone tries to breach the cockpit, I will defend it. You will fly the plane and talk on the radio. If you attempt to open the cockpit door in this scenerio, I am authorized to SHOOT YOU"

No kidding

And I meant every word of it!

 

[MALSR]

In the name of all that is holy, DO NOT touch anything that is:

a. Red in color

b. Has dust on it

Thank you.

Awesome^ I'm using that

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

Captain leadership at the majors is pretty poor also there scooter

I wouldn't know...how so??

 

[Captn]

Hi my name is Captn D-Head....Gear Up, Flaps Up, Shut Up.

 

[buscap]

What is with you captains that say "I'm laid back" in the pre-briefing? These are the guys that end up being totally anal every time. As soon as I hear those words from a captain I cringe and say to myself "this is going to be a long 4-day." You know what, the guys that aren't anal are the ones that don't have to self-proclaim their so called laid back nature before flying with someone.

Hey,

I was freaki'n laid back until you forgot to take the garbage out!!!

Do your job and I won't be "anal", you little turd shooter!!

 

[doh]

You are all forgetting "don't let me wake up and catch you sleeping"!:laugh:

 

[PositionandHold]

Mookie hit it right on the head... predictable and consistent

What about the one captain who is predictably and consistently an a$$.

 

[BAe3100FO]

But does s/he pick up the bar tab?

THAT is the question...

I used to think a good Captain would get me home safe without any extra paper work. Now I know it's the ones who do that and let me drink on their dime.

The tradition continues...

 

[FL717]

Brief:

I will try to be 100% standard by the book.... and I will fail miserably.

Pointing and laughing at me doesn't help.

Do not let me wake up and catch you reading the newspaper... unless it has pictures, TV Schedule, or a sports section.

If you fart... game on!

Please don't put your lips on anything in the cockpit.

This is a group effort open book essay style session.... cheating IS allowed.

That is all.

 

[Otto]

wonder what impression the NTSB & FAA thinks when they listen to the blackbox and hear those words after an incident..

If there is an incident or accident, they are going to blame you no matter what you say.